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[edit] Page name for temperature articles

To avoid flip-flopping between 'degree Fahrenheit' and 'Fahrenheit' or 'degree Celsius' and 'Celsius', I propose that we have a discussion on which we want. I see you have contributed on units of measurement, please express your opinion at Talk:Units of measurement. Thanks. bobblewik 23:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Heraea Games Article

Hi Jni. Thanks for your contribution to the Heraea Games article. I appreciate your clean up. Just wanted to let you know that I'm reverting to the "References" instead of "External Links," because that's a list of citations rather than further reading. I realize the formatting is not complete yet; it's a work in progress. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Complete_citations_in_a_.22References.22_section --Deebki 13:39, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I guess it is acceptable to have all your references as web sites although more scholarly refs. should be supplied later. I think all web links should contain an explanatory text instead of just the URL (see some of our features articles for examples). What I personally hate is a large number of external links interspersed in article text. In Heraea Games I have tried to relocate them at the bottom as footnotes, see my newest edit and say what you like about that style. I copied that from Sicilian Baroque article which uses "References" section only for few important sources and "Notes" for secondary sources like newspaper articles and university websites. I think the "some text" ext. link to some search engine should too be removed but I leave that to subject matter experts. jni 14:13, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for catching the vandal on my user page. This anon IP appears connected to User:TuomasTumour as well as a number of other IP addresses that all go around adding "hen fap" to articles. Looks like a serial vandal is on the loose. I blocked the original user for 48 hours which is no doubt why he's being a big baby about it. Thanks again. 23skidoo 15:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Interestingly, it might be we have the vandal's real name, see the deleted history of Special:Undelete/Image:Hallitus-Tuomas.jpg (linked from User:TuomasTumour). Google did not find anything useful about him and I don't know why a Helsinki Business College student would (or could) use an IP belonging to University of Glaskow, Scotland. Do you have a list of other IPs this "hen fap" guy has used by chance? Tracking vandals from my own country is a specialty of mine (I can understand the Finnish language clues etc.) so feel free to send any evidence to my way if he still pesters you. Cheers, jni 19:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Hen Fap struck again as TuomasTumour and has been permabanned, however soon after he did it again here under the IP number 86.31.56.59. So far that's all I've seen of him since the last outbreak. Back on March 9 he also used 86.31.63.214. Cheers. 23skidoo 04:19, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Danielle Cunio

Please don't delete Danielle Cunio. It's permanently protected against multiple re-creation by the North Carolina vandal. -- Curps 03:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, I will leave that one alone. I have been deleting old deleted pages because it seems the template and protection is way overused, especially by inexperienced new admins. I think this template should be used sparingly and only for cases like Shawn Mikula, most of the time an educational message or a block will suffice to discourage re-creation. I have tried to limit this cleanup to pages with no significant recent vandalism activity and only little deleted history. jni 07:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nuggeting

Just to let you know, Nuggeting is back for a 5th time. You deleted it the last time. --Descendall 07:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Okita?

While the exact date of Okita's birth is uncertain, the date of his death is NOT. The claim that he died in 1869 is RIDICULOUS! One only has to check up a few historical references to know that. You've unwillingly started a false claim. Please double check your information before you edit the article next time. Nlf7 09:24, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Okita who? What exactly are you talking about? jni 10:17, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, I'm very sorry about that edit (the Okita one). I honestly almost forgot that I made it, and I thank you for the correction and the message, although there should be a time limit for posting such messages because, as Jni has mentioned, most will forget about the dozens, or even hundreds and thousands of edits they make, so it might be better to just let the (corrected) user find out in his/her own that his/her edit was a wrongful one.Thanks again. Friday13 23:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

In regard of the editing ((1844-1869)) you made on the Okita Soji article (18:22, 23 November 2004 ) Nlf7 10:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

So? If there is an error there feel free to correct it. I'm not interested in Okita Soji in any way and likely won't touch that article for several years, if ever. A helpful hint: Wikipedians don't normally remember the tens of thousands of edits they have made during last 3-4 years so the kind of contextless and cryptic talk page messages you left today on several talk pages are quite meaningless and perplexing. jni 10:31, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm ONLY following the guidelines. PS. A quote from Wikipedia's official guidelines: "All editors must strive for accuracy." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Check_your_facts Nlf7 10:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

➨ ❝REDVERS❞ awards this Barnstar to Jni for helping to keep Merseyside free of rubbish and for other good works for Wikipedia.
REDVERS awards this Barnstar to Jni for helping to keep Merseyside free of rubbish and for other good works for Wikipedia.
Hey thanks! It has been a while since someone has handed me one of those. Much appreciate your barnstar! jni 09:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gravitational fine structure constant

hi ,I was not aware ofa deletion vote on this apge you erased. please restore the page ,I wish to add to it. thnaks. --Procrastinating@talk2me 14:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it because there was no meaningful content whatsoever, just the fragment of a sentence ("The Gravitational fine structure constant is the mathematical equ") that deletion log shows. Clearly a speedy deletion candidate as a new user test/experimentation edit. If you want to write an article about this topic, just start it; there is nothing to restore in the deleted history! jni 15:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unexplained Deletion

This morning you deleted my first entry for Wikipedia entitled 'Para-racism.' Please explain. Etaonsh 11:41, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

For the record, this is the text of it:-

Para-racism/-ist' is a term first coined today, 20.04.06 at Wikipedia here [[1]] by myself. I had earlier put 'quasi-racist.' Whereas 'quasi-' suggests 'almost' or 'as if,' 'para-' conveys the more telling and versatile 'similar to/additional to/resembling/assisting/alongside/beyond.' At last we have a term to convey, e.g., abuse received in connection with one's accent, town or region.

Etaonsh 13:20, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


When you placed the 'speedy deletion' notice on it, I was forced to quickly defend it on its discussion pages, in the following terms:-

Almost immediately I placed this, my first new entry into Wikipedia, it was contested on grounds not clearly identified by a person or persons similarly unidentified. Just before I discovered this, I was just adding the following to the entry, which will, for now, go here: 'At last we have a term to convey, e.g., abuse received in connection with one's accent, town or region.' Would the person who contested the entry please either withdraw, identify and/or explain yourself? Etaonsh 10:15, 20 April 2006 (UTC) For the record, I think it only right for the uninitiated to be aware of the nature of the CSD ('Candidate for Speedy Deletion') Notice which, at time of writing, has been placed here. It begins, 'This page may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion. The given reason is: This article provides no meaningful content or history, and/or the text is unsalvageably incoherent. It is patent nonsense (CSD G1). If you disagree with its speedy deletion, please explain why on its talk page or at Wikipedia:Speedy deletions. If this page obviously does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice, but do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself...' In apparent accord with normal Wikipedia practice, the originator of this, itself incoherent, IMHO, insertion, is, unlike myself, completely unidentified - I'm inclined to object to that, in these circumstances - it feels like being sniped at by someone whose interests are para-racist. You can disagree with my new entry, or with the thinking behind it (I would like to hear why, though!) but to thus label it 'incoherent' etc., is itself 'patent nonsense.' Etaonsh 16:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I deleted it as an obvious example of random non-encyclopedic junk that gets daily posted here. Why? self-admitted neologism coined today, incoherence, self-reference, original "research", first person style, barely no content other than an external link etc. etc. Please do not waste our time with garbage like this! jni 06:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
'Self-admitted neologism:' so I get penalised by you for honesty, and for inventiveness. I'll have you know that some of my neologisms have come into common usage. And I suppose you're going to dispute that, too? - in which case, neologisms need to be recorded publicly, as suggested on BBC's Balderdash and Piffle recently. 'Self-reference'? Hard to avoid if I'm recording a neologism. Let's see your own attempt at neologism before calling it 'garbage'! Etaonsh 06:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DawningStreams

Hi Jni,

I don't understand why the DawningStreams page I have just been creating has been deleted. Several companies have their pages on wikipedia and I see no reason why new companies cannot join the Wikipedia Encyclopedia. I believe that people have the right to be informed on what DawningStreams is all about. Can you please restore this page or provide more information about your decision?

Thank you in advance,

JVerstry

What is 'DawningStreams'? Etaonsh 15:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I deleted DawningStreams because not even small companies that exist today are necessarily notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia. Future ventures are almost always not eligible to have their article here (maybe if Warren Buffett would announce buying the currently non-existent company or Dubya would claim it a threat to national security or something, then that would be a notable enough event). Please see Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations) for more information. I think a free web-hosting service would be more useful for this than Wikipedia. jni 06:44, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] House of Windsor

Hello Jni, I deleted the page Gabriella M A O Windsor with the purpose of deleting the discussion pages, that contained a lot of faked information and gossips. Please note that I have back true information about that person. Skysurfer

Hi, please note that regular users are not allowed to delete pages in Wikipedia. Blanking the page or replacing it with {{deletedpage}} are not suitable substitutes for getting around the fact that you don't have the 'delete' tab in your user-interface. The {{deletedpage}} template is really for sysop use only and its purpose is to mark frequently vandalized pages that should not exist in the first place. I personally think it should be used sparingly even by admins. In case of gossip, vandalism etc. just reverting to earlier, good version or redirecting tho the real article is almost always what is needed. If you want to delete something, take it to WP:AFD, WP:RFD, WP:MFD, CAT:CSD etc. processing units. Also note that we might need to store the good revisions of Gabriella M A O Windsor for perpetuity because of legal issues with GNU FDL license we are using. jni 06:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
There is no real good reason to keep "stubs" regarding minor Royals on Wikipedia, otherwise all minor Royals from any country should be included. I warmly suggest to delete these articles, becouse for sure many users, above all schoolmates, cousins and so on of these "Royals", will soon try to vandalize them again; we don't need to make Wikipedia a sort of blog for personal wars among teens. Skysurfer 2:30 pm 4 May 2006
31st succession to throne is indeed a borderline case. Why not list this to AfD then? (I'm not interested enough about this topic nor familiar with notability reguirements for Royals to do that myself). jni 12:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for your suggestion, I'll do that shortly. Skysurfer  :)

[edit] Subst and deletedpage

Howdy! I saw you subst a {{deletedpage}}. There's no need to do so, in fact, it takes up more space in the database and consequently has a negative effect on performance (slight, but it adds up). Use subst for templates that are on pages that have traffic, not empty articles that will probably not get any visitors. Regards, CHAIRBOY () 15:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I substed it because not doing so breaks Special:Shortpages. Recently well over half of articles listed there were deleted pages, making it hard to find the ones that have been overwritten with few lines of garbage. The template is only around 1700 bytes so having ~1000 copies of it is hardly a performance penalty (there are orders of magnitude more crap in the deleted revisions table itself, the developers should purge that if database is getting too big). I think the real problem is that this template is way overused, at least few new admins seem to place this only after two or three deletions without even first blocking the nonsense editor! When the need for 'protected deletion' became apparent few years back this was supposed to be used for long-term serious vandalism cases like Kash Jaffrey or Shawn Mikula, not for every newbie vanity bio. I have been deleting old 'deleted pages' for marginal and very old incidents and would like others do the same. jni 06:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wales

I'm not sure who Wales was, but Determine won the 1954 Kentucky Derby.


[edit] Saliyar

I deleted Saliyar redirect to Saliya because both are two differnet communities and as such need different articles. Please revert your edits. Thanks.

Manjunatha (16 May 2006)

You did not "delete" anything, you blanked the page. In general, blank articles and other "this is under construction until next week/month/year and you have to read my mind to find out why" anomalies are not very useful. They typically break incoming links, confuse readers and make the improvement of short articles somewhat harder (Many zero length articles are results of vandalism, making it necessary to do short pages patrolling occasionally.) Please do not create blank pages for any reason. If you truly want to delete a redirect, list it to WP:RFD. Deletion functionality is disabled for regular users because Wikipedia community frowns on unilateral deletion of content. Alternatively you can just replace the redirect with your new article. jni 08:13, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I have listed it RfD.

Manjunatha (16 May 2006)

[edit] Hi

Thanks for resetting This page Anonymous_anonymous_Have a Nice Day 10:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dubois

Thanks for catching the Dubois reversion. I had just reverted back to that version and we edit conflicted. Geez, these kids are getting sneakier. Bucketsofg 13:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I have seen this happening many times. Sometimes vandals even place their own speedy deletion tags along the gibberish that replaces article text. I don't think such tricks are effective if the deleting admin has even a little experience with warding off vandals. After few thousand deletions you just know almost subconsciously when to press the button and when not with very small error rate. jni 13:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] name change of article Edward Seykota

Hello

Please vote on the name change of article Edward Seykota , please vote here Talk:Edward Seykota wether you Oppose or Approve.
Thank you.
Trade2tradewell 11:27, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Linking years

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)#Dates and numbers says: "chronological items such as simple years (for example, 1981) should be treated like any other words and linked only where they are particularly relevant to the topic." --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

What is the context here? If you are referring to Hugh Quarshie - and frankly I find your misuse of the admin rollback tool there slightly rude - I must ask aren't you familiar with the convention that in biographical articles the dates in the (nearly) standardized lead sentence are always linked? See the examples in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies), Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) or just about any biographical FA. After all, the birth and death years are certainly "particularly relevant to the topic". (Even when I don't know the exact latter date for myself, I can say for sure that it will be a pretty significant event for me.) jni 07:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  1. There's no such thing – certainly not formally &ndash as "misuse" of rollback, as there's no formal account of its use. It's a lot more informative than most of the non-admin editing tools such as pop-ups, AWB, etc. I'm sorry that you find my use rude, but I frankly don't understand why.
  2. Relevance isn't the same as significance. If someone died in May, for example, then May will be significant to her and her friends and family — but a link to an article on May isn't relevant to our article. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  1. It was a very popular opinion only few years or so back that the rollback should be only used for fixing vandalism and self-reverts, not for any other purpose. I'm surprised you haven't heard of this sentiment before. Apparently WP social norms have changed (to the worse) recently.
  2. You point has some merit, but it seems that a supermajority of editors who work with biographical articles do link the dates in the opening paragraph. If every bio-FA has them linked, why should we not be consistent when working with articles that are in their early stages? I just don't get it. I think the existing practise should be clarified in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) but then again reverts like [2] and [3] just reinforce my personal policy to read MoS and policy pages no more than once or twice per year and ignore the constant ebb and flow about minor issues. Cheers, jni 09:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Many thanks for moving my tmp page - I had not realised it was in the main namespace, being rather new to the whole Wikipedia thing.Madmath789 08:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] North Carolina Vandal sock template?

why did you 1) block me for trying to tag the unblocked NCV socks? 2) why did you delete the tag without blocking any of them?--205.188.116.68 15:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I apologize if you are a serious vandal fighter, but I find it hard to believe someone with new account would appear to tag the socks from the same AOL IP range the vandal is using the very minute NCV vandal starts to create his spurious accounts. I'm afraid you were just a distraction slowing down blocking out the idiot. jni 15:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sam Gibbins

Thanks for deleting this; I'd just userfied the page, was returning to ask for the redirect to be speedily deleted, and found it gone... That's what I call service. --Phronima 16:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MY STELLA PAGE

THAT WAS MYYYYYYY STELLA HUDGENS PAGE, AND YOU MESSED IT UP! IT WAS FINE!

Wiki luver111 20:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Huh? jni 10:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] talk page

Hi, I noticed you deleted Image talk:3 maps morocco.PNG for being an "orphan talk page" [4]. However, this was the talk page associated with the image from commons - where you go when you click 'discussion' on [5] - there are many others of these pages on wikipedia which people click 'discussion' from the image (they should really post at commons but they often dont). Could you please restore it? --Astrokey44 01:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I have restored it. I usually check with commons before deleting the talk page but in this case something went wrong I suppose. jni 09:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
ok thanks! --Astrokey44 03:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Just wanted to drop a note about your help in deleting nonsense pages and helping protect my user page! Hooray for vandalism huh... ;) Lsjzl 13:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rockingham Community College

Why did you delete my Rockingham Community College article? It takes time to get students, staff and faculty informed and able to make contributions. As an alumni I need the article stub to in order to have a place to point them otherwise they will have no idea that the Wikipedia is also for them. Even though I can add more information initially that is not the point. The point is to give everyone a starting place or anchor if you will from which to serve as a repository of information that has been carefully thought through. Please do not delete this article again. ...IMHO (Talk) 19:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

The delicate process of being initiated has apparently stuck in the mud. jni 04:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Church of Reality

Hi. I see you deleted Talk:Church of Reality back in March. I'm curious why you did that? The page has been a constant source of delete/recreate wars, and was marked {{deletedtalkpage}} to prevent that from happening again (which it did, after your deletion). -- RoySmith (talk) 17:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

That was just normal cleaning up of deleted pages where no continuing vandal activity was on sight. We have hundreds of deleted pages that probably should be deleted normally, instead of keeping them protected for perpetuity. I try to avoid deleting the most contented ones but apparently mistakes happen. I won't touch this one again. jni 04:54, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA Thank you

[edit] Rockingham Community College

Hey thanks for helping to keep the RCC article alive! When I started the article I went looking for help in building it but then realized it was summertime and everybody is home growing tobacco. Thanks. ...IMHO (Talk) 02:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cross-namespace redirects

You are receiving this message because you previously voiced your opinion on a Redirects for deletion of a cross-namespace redirect that was originally deleted but then went to Deletion review and was then relisted at RFD. This is a courtesy notice so you are aware that the issue is being discussed again and is not an endorsement of any position. --Cyde↔Weys 13:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Picture

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is now in the commons. So it may be deleted on en.wikipedia.org. Forrester 07:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems this got deleted in Commons for some reason:

22:12, 5 September 2006 Lumijaguaari (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Erkki Tuomioja.jpg" (copyvio)

I don't understand how this image could be a copyvio since the website by Finnish government explicitly allows free copying in publications. jni 06:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adam Ali Mahmoud

I was reviewing my watchlist, which i have not revisted in some time, and noticed this article had been deleted. Honestly, I have no recollection of its contents or who this individual was. In your deletion comments, you reported the article to be "Junk." Who was this guy, and why was he on my watchlist? Shaggorama 15:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

There is no Adam Ali Mahmoud article and never has been (no deleted history). Could you please give me a direct link to it? jni 06:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editor's Barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar
Jni is awarded the Editor's barnstar for his efforts in removing unencyclopedic articles from Wikipedia, (over 10000 of them).Blnguyen | rant-line 02:54, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! Finally someone recognizes us "cleanup by deletion" activists :-) jni 06:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey about merging Battlestar Galactica articles

Hi, feel free to provide your input at the survey: [6] Dionyseus 07:27, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toyama-Ryu funny comment added by unknown user

I added some talk about this, but didn't touch the article itself. Seems apparent a Chinese national or sympathetic person posted some stuff wanting to relate to a massacre in China by Japanese, of which I am sure there were many. Its only that the last sentence seemed to me to be more editorial than encyclopedic...[7] Rwwff 07:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

There are definetely POV issues here. I removed the external link to some Rape of Nanking partisan site because the linked website does not discuss sword systems used by Imperial army and does not mention Toyama Ryu at all. jni 06:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject_Martial_Arts

You are listed as a participant in this Wikiproject, which appears to have ground to a halt - I'm contacting all participants to try to get things rolling again... hope you can help! -- Medains 08:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] plaxtolicus

how dare u delete plaxtolicus! WHY? plaxtolicus is a popular play ground figure

[edit] Evolution Comics

This article was blanked by the creator. Other than tags, he is the only contributor. He blanked it after it was pointed out to him that he was trying to create a wiki article using trademarked characters in a way that violates those trademarks. In other words, it wasn't random vandalism that was committed but an effort to correct a mistake. CovenantD 07:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I deleted the article then (per the "blanked by sole author" CSD criteria). We don't normally leave empty articles lying around. A new article about this topic can of course be started if it can be done without violating copyrights. jni 07:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Excellent. Thanks. CovenantD 07:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wilfred [sic] the Hairy

Please enter into the article reasons for this "correction" of the unfamiliar name Wifred. Try googling "Wifredo Piloso" (i.e. Wifred the Hairy). If you find your "correction" was in error, perhaps you'd change the article title back to Wifred the Hairy. --Wetman 13:34, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea what the best title for this should be. I just corrected a one-line 'see also' reference by some newbie as a redirect. You have to ask from the person who did the move. jni 05:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Surrealism in the Arts

Dear Jni; Thank you for reverting the voided text on the Surrealism in the Arts article page. I was voiding material i wrote that was not usable. Please void the article again, or even have the article deleted. If you have any questions. talk to the administrator Happy Camper who baby sits the Surrealism articleSurreal-one 20:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Work of JGA Pocock

i created this page from scratch, and since i got almost everything wrong, i.e., details of the citations are all mixed up, i now need to delete it. so when you get a chance, kindly delete it. thanks, 70.110.200.168 20:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid I cannot locate the page you are talking about. Please post a direct link. Or if I'm not online, you could request speedy deletion by placing {{db|You'r reason for deletion}} to article in question. Hope this helps, jni 05:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)