Talk:Jewish education
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These refer, however, specifically to the commandments to love God. The obligation to teach Judaism to one's children is therefore rabbinic in origin. Not everyone agrees with this (e.g. Rashi). Actually IMO most people would not agree with this. eeemess 11:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, the Shema refers to 'these words which I command you today'. You don't need to be a Rabbi to infer that that means all of Torah should be passed on, rather than the one specific commandment.Nomist 22:17, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Please define "these words" and "today". On what grounds are you saying that they refer to the Torah as a whole? Eeemess, can you show me the mitzvah in the Chinnuch and Sefer ha-Mitzvos? JFW | T@lk 23:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Number 22 in Maimonides. Are we seeing Jeremiah 31:33? ;) ems (not to be confused with the nonexistant pre-dating account by the same name) 16:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
If I hadn't heard this observation personally from a rather prominent British lamdan I would not have believed it. But there you have it. JFW | T@lk 23:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- All of Torah was in theory given at the same time at Sinai, no? Thus if it's talking about all words given 'today', it's all of Torah. That's how it seems to me (not that I subscribe to Torah minHaShamayim in any case :-) Nomist 00:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A few things
I wouldn't presume to be expert on this, but a few things I'd mention:
- The commandment to pass down the story of Passover at the seder, a pretty specific command to pass a piece of religious knowledge down the generations
- The present-day after-school "Hebrew schools" common in the U.S. at least, especially as a way of learning enough Hebrew for a bar mitzvah.
- Where and when governments have subsidized Jewish education. There is at least one interesting case where the generally conservative and anti-Semitic government of Imperial Russia subsidized at least one of the more liberal yeshivas, the one at Zhytomyr (not, by the way, currently mentioned in our article on Zhytomyr). - Jmabel | Talk 06:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hebrew schools = Talmud Torah. Your example of "vehigadeta le-vincha" (concerning the seder) refers to one specific commandment, not to the Torah as a whole!
