Talk:Jewish-American organized crime

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Contents 1 Anti-semitism 2 External links 3 Anti-Semetic reference ? 4 Vegas Syndacate? 5 William Pierce wrote the Turner Diaries

[edit] Anti-semitism

Is this anti-Semitism? This article has existed for a while, I don't know if it's nonsense since the gangsters linked were in fact Jewish, and Murder, Inc. says that a lot of people in it were Jewish? Luigi30 (Taλk) 12:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

It's vaguely anti-semetic. There wasn't, to my knowledge, a "Jew Mafia" organized on the basis of being Jewish (who'd run the Speakeasies on Friday nights?) They weren't linked together by a nationality the way the Sicilian mob was. It was more that they happened to be Jewish. I'd see more justification for a page of "Famous Jewish Mobsters". --Happylobster 16:39, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

The "Jewish Mafia" is mentioned repeaditley on anti-semetic websites [1]. There have never been any Jewish criminals, Jews are god's chosen people and thus cannot commit crimes. These is little more than anti-semetic lies. --24.83.203.198 00:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

No criminals, no sports heroes, and no jewelers. They're all Pakistani. --Happylobster 03:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

The page itself is accurate. I deleted two anti-Semitic links. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.191.210.134 (talk • contribs).

• I've cleaned up the former stub and have substantially rewritten the article. Regarding the two external links in question however, it is generally expected on Wikipedia to disscuss an issue such as this on the article's talk page before making major changes to an article. MadMax 16:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Semetic reference ?

• I have deleted a link to a page that is home to remarks of a bigot and pathetic individual. The highly offensive remarks by Dr. Pierce should not be associated with Wikipedia, a website of integrity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.107.204.182 (talk • contribs).

24.107.204.182,

I've restored the link so the issue can be discussed before removing the link as a reference, particularly if it is used as a reference in the article. In future, simply removing an external link could be viewed (especially from an anonymous IP) could be viewed as an act of vandalism. MadMax 04:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Looking through the article, while it does have information of the present day Russian Mafia in the United States (in which the author mentions is predominantly Jewish), the article is largely unsourced and dosen't seem to contain any useful information on Jewish-American organized crime prior to the 1990s. However, it might warrent mention of the opinions of at least one scholar regarding the article itself. MadMax 04:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Look, yes, there have been, and are Jewish-American gangs and such, just as there are Italian, Irish, Mexican, and African ones. Just as there are Christian and Pagan ones (yes, there are gangs based on religion. Most Mafia organizations are almost as based on religion as on race, and there are several smaller pagan gangs. As for Muslim ones... that I do not know) By the way, 24.83.203.198 is more bigoted than most neo-nazis i've met. "There have never been any Jewish criminals"... a bit of a racial superiority complex, there, don't you think? I can name several. Meyer Lansky (Hyman Roth from The Godfather is based off of him), Otto Berman, David Berman, Harry Horowitz, and, of course, the man with the coolest name ever, William Lipshitz. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.175.14.206 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Vegas Syndacate?

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/commentary/2004/apr/30/516782598.html

Should this be put in a new section (Present Day?) or in Post War? Or should it be in Israeli organized crime? From what I can tell the Sun is not affiliated with the neo-Nazi propagandists like David Duke or his followers. Any thoughts?--Son of More 04:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmm..interesting development (considering Las Vegas is alegedly considered an "open city"). In my own opinion, the Lansky-Luciano syndicate gambling operations in Havana and Las Vegas would logicaly be included in a potential "post war" section. This would probably be placed in a present day section. MadMax 19:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] William Pierce wrote the Turner Diaries

The William Pierce linked here is a noted neo-Nazi with terrorist ties who wrote the book that inspired the Oklahoma City bomber, as his own Wikipedia article attests to. I don't see why such a source should be linked to without at least a disclaimer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Unwound (talk • contribs).

I've placed a template regarding that specific link. I've also brought the matter up at WikiProject Organized crime if you would like to comment on the matter. MadMax 07:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)