Talk:Jessica Lee Rose
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This article was nominated for deletion on September 20, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep as in keep separate. |
The lonlygirl15 saga has made her a big star. Stop deleting an article on a very notable person. Just because she became famous only due to lonelygirl15 doesn't make her not famous.
- Agreed, it is time to seperate fiction from reality here kids. RFerreira 20:29, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Merging?
I don't think this should be merged with lonelygirl15. Surely there are other things Jessica has done or will do that deserve to be placed in her own article? -203.88.127.1 22:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- She's done nothing that is important or notable enough to have started the article before the lonelygirl15 thing, and she's done nothing of note or import since. So, no, there isn't anything else that can be said in this article. Wikipedia doesn't need articles on people who are non-notable except for some other notable thing they're involved in. Consider most band articles: the individual members almost never have their own article unless they've done more than be in that band. (I say "almost" because, either by extraordinary circumstances or because it hasn't been deleted yet, there's always some articles that contradict statements like this.) So, unless there's some compelling reason to have an article on this person now that can't be done in lonelygirl15, this should be merged and the article title removed from the system. — Saxifrage ✎ 23:54, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- Dude ^^^^ saxifrage, your wrong. she's an actress, she deserves her own page. she's starring in some new zealand film aswell so stop pushing your own agenda.Jimbob615 00:18, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- Even if she has done nothing expect play the role of lonelygirl15 that dosen't mean she can't have her own page. Actors get their own wikipedia page if they make one big movie or star in a big TV show. We don't redirect their names to the articles about the shows or films. It is the same thing. Therefore both pages (one about the actress and one about the fictional story/person) should remain. 205.188.117.10 09:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- I would also like to add there are other things that can be said here, not just about the lonelygirl15 thing that made her famous. If a pop star has one hit that makes them the star and then issues 15 flops, the flops are still notable for inclusion in their article. Besides, I should Imagine whatever Jessica Rose does next will recieve some kind of attention from a lot of people, just because of this fame she has found now. If her fame lasts more than 15 minites or not remains to be seen, but either way this page is a valid addition to wikipedia. 205.188.117.10 09:05, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- I support the continued existence of this page: she's prominent enough to have her own page, even if of course it's a very short page, since she really has only one (very) notable thing on her CV. Cheers. Pablosecca 09:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah - merging makes no sense to me. Jessica Rose is NOT lonelygirl15, she's merely the actress who plays her. Keeping the pages seperate is fairly important. Traegorn 19:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that the pages should not be merged. I also think there's something ethically dubious about merging them - especially given the circumstances, Jessica Rose should definitely have a living persons protection tag, while lonelygirl15 obviously should not. Lijil 06:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm a little torn. Neither of the filmmakers involved with the project have their own pages, and although she is the "face" of the project, they're all about equal wrt notability (as this is respectively their only major project). So, I'd say, merge for now. It can always be re-made if she breaks into the mainstream. Lhall 17:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
It's not about making it into the mainstream. Besides she already has. If interviews on MTV and The Tonight Show are not mainstream what is? The fact she is the star of Lonelygirl15 is enough to justify this page, as someone pointed out if this page goes what about the pages for all the Big Brother contestants? If you feel the creators of this are just as worthy of inclusion then make the page. There is no diffrence between Jessica Rose and a one hit wonder pop star, many have pages on Wikipedia. The reason people want this page to go is pure vanity. 74.65.39.59 18:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Let's merge Mark Hammill and Luke Skywalker, too! Oh, wait, no... that makes no sense. rhaas 20:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Keep Seperate - she had a leading role in a short film
[edit] New Zealand?
If Jessica Rose was born in Maryland, why does it say she's from New Zealand? Sincerely, Thrashmeister {U|T|C} 23:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- She grew up in New Zealand and she holds New Zealand citizenship. This also evident by her accent.--James Bond 00:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- So does she hold daul citizenship or just NZ citizenship? Hbdragon88 01:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- I was always under the impression that "from" meant "born in." Sincerely, Thrashmeister {U|T|C} 16:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
If she grew up in New Zealand and has New Zealand citizenship, does it make her un-New Zealand because she was born in the US and possibly have dual citizenship?
- It does mean that saying "from New Zealand" is ambiguous and imprecise. It probably ought to be changed to something more correct, like "citizen of" or something. — Saxifrage ✎ 05:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] IMDb link, and citizenship
I'm removing the IMDb link. It points to a makeup artist named Jessica Rose. From what I've seen, it's not clear whether she has an IMDb bio yet. As for her citizenship, her birth in the US automatically makes her a US citizen; assuming she has NZ citizenship, she's a dual citizen, AFAIK. — Dale Arnett 04:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- Not necessarily true. If one already has another citizenship from a different country at the time of birth his/her parents can chose to decline a U.S citizenship. --128.196.168.135 22:54, 21 September 2006 (UTC)Ammani 04:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- The New Zealand Herald states that she is a make up artist that had worked on King Kong [2] so the odds are that [3] is her on IMDB. The Goober Brothers is a NZ TV show, and Hercules was filmed here, so it is definitely consistent for a younger make-up artist in NZ. As for citizenship, the NZ herald states [4] "The New York Times also reported Bree had been identified as Rose, a New Zealand resident who is a graduate of the New York Film Academy." (emphasis mine) which suggests she doesn't have NZ citizenship, merely is effectively and "morally" a kiwi, if not actually technically one. (If she has lived here since she was 1 year old, for example, she could easily consider herself from NZ even if she isn't a NZ citizien) Tenbaset 04:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Image
When the Wired edition with JLR on the cover came out, I used it to replace the grainy low-quality screen capture from LG15. In case anyone still values that photo and can think of an aesthetically pleasing location (and size) for it in this article, here it is -[6]. --Oakshade 02:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- We may only use freely-licensed images to depict living people. Neither image is therefore appropriate to use to depict Rose. --Yamla 16:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
![[6]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lg15.jpg){kind=link}