User talk:JereKrischel

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[edit] Calling programmers

We need coders for the WikiProject Disambigation fixer. We need to make a program to make faster and easier the fixing of links. We will be happy if you could check the project. You can Help! --Neo139 09:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your opinion may be needed

Hello there JereKrischel. You may want (or not want to) opine at the recent AfD nomination for the Francisco Gil-White article. Just thought I'd bring it up.--Ramdrake 02:01, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I may need you to weigh in again

At Talk:Race_and_intelligence, on the subject of whether or not absence of criticism of the PF in academic journals should be taken to mean anything. If you have the time and inclination, your opinion would be appreciated.--Ramdrake 01:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Keep up the good work

JK, we are finding ourselves on different sides of the fence on some issues regarding R&I. That's a bit of a shame since I like your contributions to this topic a lot. So let me take this opportunity to thank your for your very sensible collaboration on the article, it has improved a lot because of your good work. I hope your stay on board. Arbor 09:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

Hi JereKirschel, can you let me know if you've already covered your points or wish to write another response? (Your response is already 1/3 longer than my comments.)--Nectar 08:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

OK good, and thanks for your good faith.--Nectar 06:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello again JereKrischel. Please take a look at the official RC that Nectarflowed created (Listed). The question he asks is this: Is there a categorical distinction between general journals and specialist journals? which I find doesn't represent the debate appropriately. I'd like to know your opinion.--Ramdrake 22:02, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Just to let you know I took the libery to very slightly edit your clarification to the RfC question, hoping very much you don't mind too much.--Ramdrake 23:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Glad you appreciated my edit. I was worried you'd object to me changing your prose. Merci Beaucoup!--Ramdrake 01:13, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Race and intelligence

I award this barnstar to you in appreciation of the great work you are doing on race and intelligence, in addition to your many other fine contributions. --Jokestress 05:52, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello JereKrischel. Just wanted to bring to your attention the following article: [1], a full-text article which discusses in depth several of Rushton's positions (including the one on the brain size-race correlation), and includes in appendices about ten or so comments from different scientists, including Rushton himself. I am trying to read the article in its entirety, as it establishes several point which we have been challenged to try and establish in the past months while trying to edit the article. Hope it is as useful to you as I think it will be to me. Regards,--Ramdrake 20:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Glad I could be of assistance. I think this article, along with its references can help significantly towards restoring some degree of NPOV to the R&I article on Wikipedia.--Ramdrake 22:29, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ancient Hawaii

Kane, Herb Kawainui -- Ancient Hawaii link is the one that's commercial my edit is exacly what it say, another resource, and in no way commercial. Thanks

[edit] the power of the archive

You are welcome. I know Race and IQ is among the most controversial topics period, and thus the article needs to be very sophisticated and that often requires a lot of discussion. Believe me, I hate archiving recent, thoughtful discussion. I will make a perhaps pointless comment on the article talk page, but believe me, I respect the work you are putting into the article. Slrubenstein | Talk 00:46, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Conclusion"?

What "conclusion" regarding PF did you arrive at and/or what did you want to discuss? You shouldn't delete discussions from the discussion page. Think At Least Twice 04:37, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

JK, this is Zen-master. --Rikurzhen 06:13, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

You have severely misrepresented my position, whether the Pioneer Fund is "evil" or not is an entirely separate concern from whether they fund and encourage scientific racism. Given that many sources have alleged the latter Wikipedia should report on it. Think At Least Twice 09:10, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for admin attention

I'm requesting some Wikipedia administrators to communicate with a user, Aeusoes1, who is causing some problems for the Hawaiian phonology article. Please look at the article's talk page, section "Edits by AEuSoes1", especially "Edit 3". If it's appropriate, in your opinion, please consider a temporary block for that user. Otherwise, perhaps you can reason with him. Thanks. Agent X 16:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What on Earth is happening?

Hello JK. Just noticed that Rikurzhen has requested (and obtained) deletion of his own userpage. Has he left WP or what? Have you heard anything? Please let me know. I just hope it's not that anon (whom I'm suspecting greatly is ZenMaster) who slapped a "db" on both the article and Rikurzhen's page. Right now, I have no clue... totally in the dark.--Ramdrake 18:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the reply and for following up with him. I just hope he hasn't given up on WP.--Ramdrake 19:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

nothing untoward. i'm going to be unavailable for a while. --Rikurzhen 20:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello again JK. Now that Rikurzhen seems to have announced his intention to stop editing the R&I article for the most part (see the R&I talk page), do you still want to work on it, to give yourself a break, or have you too given up on editing this paper? Please let me know.--Ramdrake 16:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hawai'i History & Hawai'i Kingdom Overthrow

Hello there, thank you for sending the note (rather than reverting seven times). Gladly, I will slow the editing down and work on one paragraph at a time. I was simply surprised and dismayed to find that most of my changes from a few months ago had been wiped out without much comment. I put a note on the talk page as well. Huangdi 02:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi JereKrischel, thanks for holding the line on the sentence we hammered out together on the 1993 controversial resolution regarding the overthrow. Noticed it's been changed a few times but you catch it and revert it back, congrats! I still think it's a good sentence and a great compromise between our two very different philosphies. Shows the pen (or keyboard) IS mightier than the sword! (By the way, had to create this new User name, that's why you may not recognize it.) Mahalo!!! Kaihoku 4 December 2006

[edit] Merci beaucoup

For your extremely appropriate intervention on the talk page of Race and Intelligence yesterday. I didn't realize until too late that Rikurzhen was getting me to stray from what I think is the important point of having both explanations (race vs latitude) side by side. Many thanks to you for succintly pointing out its vital importance in the debate.--Ramdrake 15:13, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI on J. Philippe Rushton

Just to let you know it seems the editor or editors which were trying to make this article into a piece of apology for Rushton seem to be back. As far as I can tell, they don't seem to be interested in discussing their changes so far, just in reverting back whoever reverts them. I'm keeping an eye on it for the moment, but I figured I'd let you know this is happening. Regards,--Ramdrake 00:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bayonet Constitution

JK, though it's softer in tone than what I wrote, your wording is OK with me -- still NPOV. Being a fairly subtle change, though, I'm curious as to what you feel is important about the distinction. Cheers. Arjuna 02:58, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] J. Philippe Rushton again

Hello, me again. You may want to go take a look-see at [2] where they're talking about you (and me). The anon there has some choice words for us:

2 editors named Ramdrake and JereKrischel dominate this article and have removed all encyclopedic content from this article and have used selective quotes to try to portray a qualified and objective academic as an incompetent racist. This type of libel goes against wikipedia's rules for biographies on living persons. Also, people researching Rushton do so to learn about the theories for which he is best known, not to read a list of selectively chosen quotes trashing the man. I find this article very biased, one sided, boring, and libelous. Now that the article is semi-protected against new users like me, I encourage anyone concerned with the rules of living persons articles to revert back to my version of the article. 205.211.50.10 02:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC). I figured maybe you'd want to add your opinion... Have a good day nevertheless!--Ramdrake 12:07, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Tried to explain as best as I could. Hope I get through to them. At least, you got them talking rather than reverting tit for tat. That's good. Thanks!--Ramdrake 22:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to bring your attention that I'm heavily suspecting Liketoread, Minorcorrections and the 205.xxx anon are all socks of the same physical person. How would we go about finding out?--Ramdrake 03:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

¸Actually, I misspoke myself: I meant users: Minorcorrections, Finalnow, Centrum99 and anons: 205.211.50.10 and 205.211.52.10. All that maybe besides the point, but looking through their contributions (especially the anons) is an education, I'll let you figure out in what... wouldn't want them to acccuse me of personal attack. Never mind. Have a good day!--Ramdrake 14:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rushton article

create another article about people who criticise race as provide a brief link on the rushton book page but don't clutter Rushton's article with criticism of race in general, because that takes away room for all the criticism specific to his book. Minorcorrections 03:02, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Look you are edit warring with me for nothing. I'm not against there being massive detailed criticism, but keep it specific to Rushton's work, not a general criticim of race or IQ because such articles already exist and can be easily linked to. Also I don't like your version of the summary. The previous version was much better so can you please leave it as it is or discuss what your problem with it is, because to me it looks good. Also the penis criticism seems really inappropriate. Rushton looks at dozens and dozens of variables, so why a whole section just devoted to penis size, and just one specific penis size study. Much better to criticise his methods in general than blow one specific area out of proportion, especially one as trivial as penis size. If you just trust me and cooperate with me, I have sources that can add a lot more criticism to balance the article that is specifically directed at Rushton, but the criticism you're adding is too broad (criticising race in general) or too specific to warrant a section (penis size). Let's just take it slow, because an edit war is only going to stress us both out. Some of the criticism I can cite even criticises the concept of race, but does so in a way that's specific Rushton's theory. Minorcorrections 03:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the key to working together is editing slowly. I think we should both oppose anyone who tries to change too much too quickly, regardless of whether they agree with you or me. I still have a lot of problems with your version of the article but I will not revert back. I will simply make one small change a day (at the most), so you'll know exactly what I have a problem with and why, and we'll have plenty of time to slowly go over everything point by point. Minorcorrections 04:19, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I think we're finally getting somewhere

If you take a look at Talk:Race and intelligence (Explanations), I think we're close to a possible solution with Rik on working in the same direction. At least, his last post seems promising. I have suggested that instead of focusing the debate on whether or not there is a genetic component to BW IQ differences, we instead focus on how much of a genetic influence there is. That way, no strawman of 0% genetic and no partly-genetic theory which turns out to be mostly-genetic. I think we can all work with that.--Ramdrake 23:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need your help at Intelligence quotient

Somebody keeps removing two valuable links (one ot general intelligence, one to "g"). If you could just drop by the page and make your voice heard as well, maybe this individual would understand he is going against consensus and stop this persistent reversion. Thanks!--Ramdrake 14:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contribution to "menehunes" deleted

I hope I'm doing this correctly being a new user to Wikipedia. If I'm not, please correct me. I made a contribution to the Menehune page which included that of a heiau (temple) on the island of Kauai, the construction of which was attributed to the menehune by local legend. Editor Zora deleted the additions with the comment that it was "woo-woo speculation" or something to that affect. Not sure if I understand all the Wikipedia jargon yet, but I assume that means it was deleted because the building of the heiau by the menehune is legend, but the menehune themselves are legend so that would stand to reason. Not quite sure why the other structures (Alekoko fishpond, Kikiaola ditch) would be listed but the Malae Heiau would be eliminated. Thank you.

First off, you should probably create your own user name, and then "sign" each comment on a talk page by putting four tildes (~) at the end (eg. "Arjuna 03:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)"). It's also better to discuss this on the talk page for the article in question. As for the substance of the edit, my two cents is that although not a subscriber of menehune-as-real-historical-being theory, within the parameter of the article which discusses them as legend, I see no harm. Arjuna 03:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaii etymology

I think I used about 10 different websites, each of which had a slightly different translation. That is why I asked for a Hawaiian language expert or fluent speaker to check it. Do we have at least one of those at English Wikipedia? Badagnani 20:23, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

How wonderful; I didn't know such a degree was possible. I did add references, as you had asked for them, much earlier this day. Badagnani 03:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if Agent X will respond as he seems to have stopped editing some months ago. I did leave a question at the Hawaiian language Wikipedia as well but haven't checked back to see if anyone has answered. Badagnani 05:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Paulet text

I trust you on the new Paulet text. Badagnani 05:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub tags

Hi, I've noticed you've created a number of stub articles recently. It's more helpful if you can tag an article with a specific stub tag, such as {{party-stub}} - a full list can be found here.

[edit] Hawaii history

Good, I think multiple perspectives help make the best article for everyone. Those who are close to the subject (as you are clearly closer than I am) have a perspective may leave out "givens" that everyone there seems already to know. I'm reminded of the "Happy Days" episode in which Fonzie becomes impatient when teaching automobile repair to a novice. It isn't because he doesn't know the subject because he was an expert, but in fact the problem was that he was so good at it that he just couldn't explain it on a beginners' level. I agree that the background shouldn't be oversimplified and should be factual, and also that we should remain above the various debates over sovereignty, presenting the context and relevant issues with a dispassionate eye. I think you and the other Hawaii experts have done a good job hammering these things out in the various pages and think it's great you're improving them (with exceptions pointed out on the Hawaii talk page for removed passages that I didn't feel were adequately substituted). If the Hawaii article is too long, I agree that sections could be split off. In looking at individual U.S. state articles I see that some don't include a history section at all--all of the text is in a separate article. I don't think such an extreme solution is warranted in the Hawaii article, but probably some text could be split out into the branch articles. Thanks again for your note. Badagnani 13:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fyi - wdhamilton

FYI - in order to simply my WP time, I've decided to switch user names from User:Rikurzhen to W. D. Hamilton.