Talk:Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs

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Contents 1 Founding motive 2 Hasbara organization 3 Spurious "See Also"s 4 Why have you stopped signing your comments? 5 Claims vs. States 6 Order of publications 7 4 Reverts on this page too, Alberuni

[edit] Founding motive

Putting the founding motive in quotes makes it clear it is the claim of the JCPA

[edit] Hasbara organization

It wasn't founded as a hasbara organization, and it still does many other things besides hasbara. Claiming that its only role is hasbara is misleading at best.

[edit] Spurious "See Also"s

The Arab-Israeli conflict link is about the various battles and incidents. Hasbara is already linked in the article. The JCPA is not a Zionist organization except in the loosest sense of the term. Please stop littering articles with spurious See Alsos. Jayjg 19:00, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Why have you stopped signing your comments?

Rather surly today. --Alberuni 16:35, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Claims vs. States

Saying an organization "states that" it has done something is completely NPOV. Saying that it "claims to" have done so indicates skepticism on the part of the author. Jayjg 19:00, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

No, writing that "JCPA states that they have developed cutting edge methods for disseminating propaganda" is accepting their claim that the methods are cutting edge and not the same old information manipulation methods that they and other propagandists like them have been using since the days of Goebbels. --Alberuni 19:24, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Nonsense; it is merely accepting that they state that, regardless of whether or not it is true. Compare, for example, language used in the articles NGO Monitor criticizes. Jayjg 19:40, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Order of publications

The JCPA lists its publications in one order; why modify it? Jayjg 19:00, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

We aren't the JCPA (at least I'm not). We're Wikipedia. We have a link to one of those hasbara operations. JCPA order has no intrinsic meaning. Why do you insist on copying their format? --Alberuni 19:24, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Why on earth would we use any other order? Is it harder to click a link when it's farther on in the sentence? Jayjg 19:34, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

What's the point in following JCPA format? Loyalty? --Alberuni 06:51, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

What's the point in following any other order than the one they provide? Jayjg 06:55, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Exactly, what's the point? Why did you insist on JCPA's order? --Alberuni 07:20, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I simply copied the list of reports from the JCPA website, as any editor would do, on October 27. The question is why you felt the need to change the order weeks later? Jayjg 21:18, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've noted your blatant copying and plagiarism on several pages. --Alberuni 21:36, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 4 Reverts on this page too, Alberuni

4 Reverts on this page too, Alberuni. Wow, your contempt for Wikipedia policy knows no bounds. Jayjg 06:42, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

No, my contempt for manipulative Zionist liars knows no bounds. --Alberuni 06:50, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)