Talk:Jerrycan

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hi, plz added sample pictures.... thanx.

Pictures of vintage WWII jerrycan added via external link. Been trying in vain to find free stock photos.

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Contents 1 Deleted information 2 German Invention of the JERRYCAN 3 No German History 4 The sacred vessel of the Marmon

[edit] Deleted information

Hi User:Jooler, don't just delete information. If you've got issues with it, put it in the talk page, like so:

The British sent examples of the cans to United States and the Americans finally decided to use the jerrycan.
Previously, two American engineers, Daniel and Paul Pleiss, who had been working in Germany just before the war had seen the cans in use during an automobile tour in India. They'd gotten a sample can and manufacturing specs to Washington in 1940, but the homegrown American solution was used instead. (an account of this can be found in a 1987 article by Ramón Alonso in "Invention & Technology")

I don't know why you have problems with this information, the article in question exists, since I've seen indicies of Invention and Technology which list it, although I haven't yet been able to secure a copy of the article. Care to tell me why you find it unreliable?
~ender - 2005-05-02 18:23:MST

1st - The info was added by an anon IP, with no contribution history. 2nd I cannot find a single reference to this information anywhere else on the web. so I deleted it. It is better to leave out information than to add erroneous factoids. It was then re-added by another anon IP (you). Please get an account. Jooler 08:04, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Anonymous user != bad information.

http://www.public.asu.edu/~atdyw/itm405/i&t-toc-1986-1996.pdf

Really, not too hard, now is it?

I agree that anonymous unattributed factoids ought to be removed from articles - to the talk page. Instead of just deleted. Factoids that have indentifying information, which would allow you to track them down, ought not to be eliminiated on a whim.

~ender - 2005-05-06 11:24:MST

Contributions by anon IPs have a high tendency to be full of erroneuous information, whether by design or accident. I see nothing to confirm the information added to this article in the link you gave. I only see "Why a can for gasoline was a crucial weapon in World War II (The Jerry Can)". Please get an account. Jooler 07:37, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

An article by Ramón Alonso, in the 1987 issue of "Invention & Technology". Maybe, since the citation is correct, you might consider that the facts are too? And even if the facts are complete crap, that would be easy to prove or disprove, since there *is* a citation. Thank you.

As long as wikipedia is open to the public, I'm not going to get an account. So you can shutup about it.

~ender 2005-05-09 02:10:MST

Finally got around to reading that article in the Fall 1987 "Invention & Technology", page 62 & 64 (postfix). It's actually by Richard M. Daniel. Also of note, he says that the only mention in the official record says simply: "A sample of hte jerry can was brought to the office of the Quartermaster General in the summer of 1940". Richard was one of the two guys tasked with improving the gasoline stuff, and found out this the hard way.

~ender 2006-07-08 13:38:MST

[edit] German Invention of the JERRYCAN

Hi there; as far as I know, the jerrycan has not been invented by the Italians but the Germans. See this link:

http://www.afrika-korps.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16560#16560

Cheers, Kuno

I've found the document on which the text I quoted is based: it is a report from the Commanding Officer of the 7th. M13 Tank Btn., addressed to the 32nd. Tank Regiment Command, dated 21 April 1941. The text reads:

"No other container exists than the 200 litres drum, cumbersome, unwieldy. In German units, instead, there exist 20 litres canisters, which refueling is made with, up to the single tank or car, and which every vehicle carries a suitable supply of, in special installations." (robc's translation)

This definitely means that at that date, after almost one year of war, still there were no jerrycans in Italian use, either of national production or borrowed from the Germans (possibly apart from small units interoperating directly with the Afrikakorps).

Ok; they would probably not have written this complain[sic: complaint] if they would have had something like a jerrycan already

I was mislead by your title, so I've re-written it for you :)

~ender, 2006-01-31 21:05:PM MST

And how much fuel does a Jerry can hold? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 138.217.41.148 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Twenty liters, or five gallons. —wwoods 06:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

This reference to the Third World is an anachronism: "The 4 gallon containers, which were mainly manufactured in the third world,..." —wwoods 06:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No German History

Its odd that this article is mostly from the UK/US perspective. This article needs history on the German development as well. —Cliffb 11:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The sacred vessel of the Marmon

In some parts of Europe these liquid containers are known as "Marmon cans", since originally these were factory accessories for the Ford Germany made heavy military trucks, fitted with the patented Marmon-Herrington 4x4 drive system. 195.70.48.242 09:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)