User talk:Jeltz

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Contents 1 Monarchs and categories 2 Why??? 3 Plurals (the same point as Michael - our edits clashed) 4 The Humungous Image Tagging Project 5 Article Licensing 6 Afghanistan provinces 7 COTW 8 Succession boxes 9 USS Indianapolis (CA-35) 10 Discworld 11 Edit Main Page? 12 country infoboxes 13 Naruto 14 Gustav Vasa 15 lots of edits, not an admin 16 The Swedish Wikipedians' notice board 17 Swedish flag 18 MOND Review 19 The Dark Eye 20 Re: Interwiki links 21 Vandal reverts 22 br 23 Your edits on Ilaiyaraaja

[edit] Monarchs and categories

Do the additions you've made to the category entries (adding monarch names to the category link) actually do anything? --jpgordon{gab} 20:20, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, they have to do with the sorting of entries on the category pages. The part after the "|" will not be shown but it will be used to sort by. If you don't add that part Charles IX of Sweden would be placed before Charles VIII of Sweden. See Category sorting. Jeltz 20:31, 2004 Nov 15 (UTC)

[edit] Why???

I do not understand why you're going through things changing (e.g.) [[dog]]s to [[dog|dogs]]. I've been doing exactly the opposite for months. You are depriving people of this shortcut. The effect is EXACTLY the same! In particular, the whole word, including the letters outside the brackets, appears as a blue link. Michael Hardy 22:47, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• • I have nothing to say except "Me stupid". Jeltz 22:53, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)

[edit] Plurals (the same point as Michael - our edits clashed)

Hello - I don't understand why you are working to pipe links for plurals, which I saw on list of theorems. Writing theorems i.e. [[theorem]]s is perfectly fine: no need to do [[theorem|theorems]]. Charles Matthews 22:49, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• Yeah, that was totally unnecesasary of me. I now don't know why the hell I did do it. Jeltz 22:52, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)
  • I appologize for my momental stupidity. I knew this but for some reason I just didn't think of it when I edited it. Jeltz 22:58, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)

[edit] The Humungous Image Tagging Project

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Afghanistan provinces

hi, the provinces of Afghanistan are commonly spelled with a lower case p rather than an upper case P (see for example: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11]). i don't know why that is the common protocol, but it is. i am going to revert the changes you've made. if i miss any, please revert the ones i miss. thanks :) Kingturtle 22:13, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Damn. I don't really have any more to say than that. Jeltz 22:15, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)

• • No problem. i'll switch it all back this afternoon. don't worry about it :) Kingturtle 22:17, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • Pretty strange, in Sweden it's the same but I'm pretty sure that when translated to English every part of the name gets capitlized (unlike in Swdish where only the first letter in the name is capitalised). Thanks for telling me this, and cleaning up the mess that i created. Jeltz 22:21, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)
  • I think that we have removed all my edits now. Thanks for the help. Jeltz 23:16, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)

[edit] COTW

Congratulations, First Indochina War has been voted this week's Wikipedia:Collaboration of the week. Please edit it to help raise it to featured article status.

[edit] Succession boxes

No worries, I'm glad you're doing it in fact! We don't need those obsolete templates cluttering things up. Once they're orphaned I'll TfD 'em. Mackensen (talk) 19:34, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

One note: we don't use years in peerage succession. Just put a space in when converting from PeerNavbox to Succession box. Mackensen (talk) 16:08, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Thanks, is there any specific reason for this, and is there any general rule for when to use years and when to not? Jeltz talk 19:46, 2004 Dec 26 (UTC)

(Sorry for butting in.)

There doesn't seem to be; we don't use years on the Peerage ones because, well, we don't.

I've now converted the PeerNavbox template to use the Succession box template, FWIW, so that can be used without worrying about setting the years to be blank.

James F. (talk) 14:47, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi; I'm wondering why people are on a campaign replace the Sequence template with the Succession box one. The Succession box is, in my opinion, flat and unappealing; I just can't see why people would trouble themselves to replace the Sequence template which is functionally the same, but looks nicer. Can you explain (I'm asking you since I noticed you performed this operation for Moctezuma I)? There must be a reason. QuartierLatin1968 20:45, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• I did it for the years. Sequence has no years field and that means that one has to write pretty ugly code with "Title'''<br>1111–2222'''&nbsp;" to make it correct wikisyntax. Otherwise you will get an unclosed "'''". I did this because all of the Aztec emperors were in WP:WS. Maybe you consider my edit unnecessary but I did this becuase I prefer to have the years as a variable in the template and remove as much formatting information as possible from the articles to the template. Also I think that it's important that things like the tripple qoutes are properly closed even though I don't think that it causes any visible differnce in this case. Jeltz talk 21:09, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• • No, I agree, that is a valid reason. From a technical point of view, your way is better. I suppose my real complaint is about the appearance of the Succession box itself — but surely that will evolve as the fashion changes. So perhaps you can help me; what was wrong with my syntax? I'm new to the world of succession and sequence boxes. Did I fail to close all of my triple quotes? QuartierLatin1968 01:31, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It's not that important but if you look at the tempalte you will see that the list variabel is enclosed in tripple quotes, like this: '''{{{list}}}'''. This means that the way you wrote it ("list=[[List of speakers of Tenochtitlán|Tlatoani of Tenochtitlán]]'''<br >1440–1469") would produce code like this (with tripple quates highlated in red):

'''[[List of speakers of Tenochtitlán|Tlatoani of Tenochtitlán]]'''<br >1440–1469'''

As you see the last tripple quote is unclosed, but in this case it doesn't matter. Since it seems like the wikipedia engine removes this unclosed (or perhaps unopened) tag and still produces correct html. In other cases when the bolding of the text isn't enclosed in a table cell it would mean that the bolded text would continue and make the rest of the text bolded. As you can see for that I have been involved in the wikisyntax project I care quite much about having a correct syntax. :)

Does the two templates look differnt to you? to me they look the same. Jeltz talk 15:46, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Definitely. The old one was black and white with a raised, almost three-dimensional look. The new one looks flat and two-dimensional, with a dark grey outline over a light grey background. This must something to do with my preferences, I take it? QuartierLatin1968 15:46, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] USS Indianapolis (CA-35)

You put in some work on this article, but I'm sorry to say that it was all in vain since you were editing a vandalised version: see the history. Gdr 14:27, 2004 Dec 29 (UTC)

• I see. No problem, you did the right thing. It didn't look like vandalism to me (just a poor article), but I still should have checked the history. Jeltz talk 14:40, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Discworld

I've noticed you've done some good work on the Discworld articles. Just thought I'd let you know, if you haven't seen it already, about Wikipedia:WikiProject Discworld. Thanks, violet/riga (t) 15:41, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Main Page?

To quote you in Talk:Main Page;

Just so you know, anyone can edit the "Did you know..." section. It's not obvious to those who are new to Wikipedia but it is a tempalte (which is not protected) which is included in the main page (which is protected). Much of the contents on the main page can be edited by anyone. - Jeltz talk 23:06, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I have seen errors on the main page but was unable to correct them. But the snippet above still leaves me in the dark. Could you please explain in greater detail? Too Old 07:27, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC)

Some of the sections on the main page (in the news, featured article, did you know and aniversaries) aren't actually a part of the main page. If you take a look at the source of the main page you will see several things in curved bracers like {{Did you know}}. This means that the tempalte Template:Did you know will be included on the main page. Tempaltes are mostly used to achieve common formatting in related articles (like Template:Taxobox that is used for species). Why tempaltes are used in this case is probably because the administrators probably don't want everyone to be able to edit the mainpage, but they are too lazy to entertain the dynamic sections of the main page. :) Most of the tempaltes on the main apgearen't protected. If you want to edit "Did you know" you edit this template.

Another clever thing that can be seen on the main apge if you clickview source to see the code you see that they use {{CURRENTDAY}} in the tempalte names of the templates that change daily (anniverseries and today's featured article). This makes the mainpage automitcally switch which template is shown when a new day starts. There exists one anniversary template for each day of the year for exemple Template:June 6 selected anniversaries. These should all be editable by anyone.

I hope that my explanation makes sense. To check the names of the tempaltes you which to edit you look at the source of the main page. I figured this out myslef just recently that the anniversaries of today are switch automatically. :) - Jeltz talk 12:52, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, I will investigate that further when I have need to do another such correction. Too Old 18:16, 2005 Jan 8 (UTC)

[edit] country infoboxes

Hi, there's a new Solution E that's been proposed for the country infoboxes; I've changed my vote from the Solution D that I proposed, earlier. The new option, proposed by User:Zocky, transcludes a subpage instead of using the template mechanism for this.

See: Nepal's infobox is implemented at Nepal/infobox using Template:Infobox_Country; Tuvalu's is implemented at Tuvalu/infobox as a wiki table.

Discussion is at: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countries

voting: Wikipedia:Country_infobox_vote

Thanks. — Davenbelle 02:47, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Naruto

The main problem with simply going to the fan names and translations is because Naruto is going on US TV during the summer, as it has been licensed (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pressrelease.php?id=851). Also, Viz now states both Japanese and English attack names in the manga.

The naming isn't the issue, anyways. The issue is which "quote" set should be used. WhisperToMe 05:28, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gustav Vasa

Hello. I just want to tell you that you will have a lot of work on your hands if you change "Gustav I of Sweden (Vasa)" to "Gustav Vasa", because I am writing the the former in all my articles. I actually don't know what name is to be preferred. If you want, you can post a suggestion at Wikipedia:Swedish Wikipedians' notice board.

--Fred-Chess 13:09, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] lots of edits, not an admin

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:18, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Swedish Wikipedians' notice board

Hi, since I noticed that you were a fellow Swedish Wikipedian, I wanted to stop by to mention the Swedish Wikipedians' notice board, but now I see that Fred beat me to it (although he didn't really leave an explicit invitation to join...). Maybe you're already watching it, but if not - you might want to consider doing it, and possibly also signing up at the bottom of the page. There is no requirement to put in work in any collaborative effort, if you don't feel like it. And although your main interests around here might not be the Sweden-related articles, the page does serve a purpose as an information hub, e.g. to alert people familliar with Swedish issues to naming disputes, POV disputes, VfDs etc. A list of names also makes it easier to find the active Swedish Wikipedians around, e.g. for newcomers needing some help. However, if you're not interested, that's cool, of course. / Alarm 20:09, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I will check it out. :) Jeltz talk 20:16, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish flag

Hi Jeltz. I think the NCS to RGB converter is flawed. The swedish flag "blue" color is obviously purple nuance... The swedish flag here actually once used that color, but now uses the same colors as the flag on www.ra.se (page linked on Flag of Sweden).

(You can respond here) --Fred-Chess 14:59, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. I used the second converter linke din the NCS article, but now I have changed to what they use in the image at Riksarkivet. Jeltz talk 16:50, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] MOND Review

You recently edited MOND, so I take this chance to request you to vote on my proposal for making MOND a featured article. Thank you. Loom91 18:13, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Dark Eye

Yes, you're right, I didn't notice.

The 11×11 was picked from fr:, and was written by an editor who seems to know very well the topic (the problem is that those editions were never published outside Germany).

I'll ask him to write his explainations on the talk:The Dark Eye. It would be interesting to have the point of view from the editor who wrote "more than two hundred".

cdang|write me 20:23, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Interwiki links

Actually I've been wondering for a long time about the order of interwiki links, and knew about the native ordering, but I saw a couple weeks ago on the Help Desk a link to a discussion where it was agreed that the ordering should be according to the 2-letter code. It is however, AFAIK, a guideline, not a policy. I'll try to find the link, but I don't think the ordering is important enough to revert. IIRC, I only changed the ordering because I was fixing the interwiki on another Wikipedia and ordered it that way to make it easier to copy from the English. However, if I can't find this discussion, I'll ask on the help desk and maybe start a new discussion about it, supporting the 2-letter code ordering (native name ordering is extremely confusing). -- Y Ynhockey ^(Talk) Y 18:20, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

I found the discussion, it's here and it seems that so far my way of ordering by the 2-letter code is winning, although it's a narrow margin. It seems that the poll wasn't voted on for a long time but people started voting again this month. Please don't revert any more re-orderings to the proper order. As for bots, they are outdated as someone told me, and I might contact their creator(s), notably YurikBot, and ask to change (or not touch) the ordering scheme. -- Y Ynhockey ^(Talk) Y 10:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal reverts

Hi Jeltz, I was about the revert those changes of the Coolio picture when I saw that someone had beaten me to it. Thanks, anyways! Hurrah 15:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. :) Jeltz talk 16:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] br

I noticed you'd removed the "break" from articles such as Carl Westman. Some authors put a "br" before the metadata in order to prevent the data from overlapping with the bodytext. Cheers, --Camptown 22:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits on Ilaiyaraaja

Hi there. Just want to say thank you for taking the time to go through the article and fine-tuning it — it is very sincerely appreciated. Cheers, AppleJuggler 15:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)