Talk:Jeffrey de Fourestier

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[edit] From VfD

Vanity page. Adding himself to List of historians, List of Germans, List of lexicographers, Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and other lists. Google shows very limited number of non-self-generated hits. Vidocq 21:05, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

  • Blimey, he claims his Master's Thesis is the best ever work on the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. That's some ego he has there. Average Earthman 21:20, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
    • Having had a look at some of the links - well, the things he claimed he was involved in appear to exist, but I haven't found any mention of him on their websites. Delete. Average Earthman 22:05, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete – vanity --Monsieur Mero 00:18, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, but some of this stuff should be cut, and needs some editing to make NPOV. A little of a hagiography. --Daniel C. Boyer 18:42, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, and impressively well done, I might ad! Sam Spade 05:54, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Elaborate vanity. moink 06:08, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'm attempting to email him. The best solution IMO would be for him to register, move this to his user page, and contribute. That's assuming it is autobiography, which seems likely. Andrewa 10:39, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete: give it the special "vanity of vanities" award, then delete. Wile E. Heresiarch 14:47, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
    • PS: and then someone should clean up the links that he's littered around WP. Wile E. Heresiarch 14:48, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • The vest damn vanity page we've ever had. Delete. RickK | Talk 21:50, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Move to user page and delete. I've just spent nearly an hour on Google checking these claims (yes, I =do= need to get a life) and while it is possible they are a bit overblown, those I could confirm are essentially consistent with information on sites over which M. de Fourestier would have no content control. He is a noted mineralogist, a National Defense coordinator for the Canadian government, and a recipient of the Meritorious Service Medal. While he has every right to be proud of his accomplishments, this page, in this context, is still shameless self-promotion. Denni 20:05, 2004 Mar 14 (UTC)
  • Keep, and use this information to make a good stub. He's not a registered user, is he? This page has been built by someone not logged in at IP 131.137.245.x and we're assuming it's him. So, is it wise to set up a user page for an unregistered user? What user name will you give him? Or, will it be a subpage of an existing user? But it sounds like he qualifies for a page. Being self-important doesn't disqualify anyone from inclusion, we'd have very few politicians listed if it did (;->. Andrewa 02:27, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Not sure, but need to comment on your "use this information to make a good stub". If you remove information to make it a stub, what information would you later add to make it not a stub? Moriori 19:43, Mar 15, 2004 (UTC)
    • Who proposed removing information? Not me. I was proposing merging the info that is there with what is now here above. The reason I don't just do it myself is that I think that the person who found the info will do a better job of it, rather than me guessing their sources and relative reliability if they conflict. Andrewa 20:01, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • For what it's worth, he edited my user page (not the talk page) and added Someone has appointed himself God. It is Vidocq! On Jeffrey de Fourestier he is now denying he is the author of his own page (The subject of this article was interviewed for the information contained therein), which is curious: an author-for-hire would not normally be making dozens of small edits on an ongoing daily basis. Vidocq 23:21, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Anthony DiPierro 23:17, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Del. --Wik 20:21, Mar 18, 2004 (UTC)

This is another 2/3 majority to delete, removed from VfD by Anthony. --Wik 20:21, Mar 18, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] Jeffrey de Fourestier and De Fourestier, Jeffrey redirect page

  • Recently I saw a lot of racist comments and personal insults but into the text by somebody with a sick mind. I looked at older versions to correct as best I could from other Wiki type sites. I am not a Wiki member but just happened on this site while researching Interanational Youth Year and found some very shamefull changes so I tried to edit in a way that matched anddidencourage other nut cases. I also Googled him and aside from very personal things, everything checks out. I als found a way to check his references from Library of Canada, Redpath Museum, etc. and everything in this connection checks out too. Amar from Toronto The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.123.178.194 (talk • contribs) . Derex 05:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POVcheck

This seems more than just a bit glowing. Quite reads like Jeffrey himself is the author. It appears this has been through VFD on those grounds, and probably should have lost. At the least, the consensus there was to cut down on the POV. This doesn't seem to have happened. Hence, the "check" tag. Derex 05:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)