Talk:Jean Ziegler
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Mainstream article from Time Magazine concerning Jean Ziegler: http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,957634,00.html
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Cb93, thanks for your edits to this article. Some of the stuff you added is very helpful. However, some of your language wasn't exactly what we use here. It would be appropriate for a magazine article, for example, but not an encyclopedia.
As for the Gaddafi thing: can you provide a source that says he wasn't involved in it in any way? Any good source on the subject would be appreciated. It needs to be confirmed or dismissed, or the article must discuss the controversy surrounding claims and counterclaims. IronDuke 03:20, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
I understand Ziegler was on the panel that awarded first the prize and continues to be involved. UN Watch cites an article from United Press International on April 23, 1989.
Socialist deputy Jean Ziegler said a prize foundation fund in the name of Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi is registered in Geneva with capital of $10 million. Annual winners will be selected and foundation capital managed by a committee of African and European politicians and intellectuals, he said. The prize is conceived as an anti-Nobel Peace Prize award for the Third World, Ziegler said in a statement. Ziegler said committee members besides himself include Sam Nujoma, leader of the Southwest African Peoples Organization (SWAPO); Robert Charvin, honorary dean of the law faculty at Nice University in France; Nasser Cid, dean of law at Khartoum University, Sudan; and Jean-Marie Bressand, founder of the twinned cities association.
Ziegler was awarded the prize in 1992 but declined it Jamahiriya News Agency in French.
I think that a sentence along the lines of "Ziegler was a member of the panel that awarded the first Kadaffi Prize [not sure what the official title is] and was awarded the prize in 1992, though he declined to accept it." I can't source his rejection of the prize although it is stated in the French wiki, and it would be erring on the side of caution. Pontificake 09:36, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
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I see that there is a strong urge to highlight ostensible defects in Jean Ziegler's character (I wanted to write "slander" but decided choose a neutral formulation). I don't know whose weak character and flimsy skin cannot suffer any criticism by Ziegler, nor do I really want to.
Anyway, I noticed that all sources supplied to prove the Ziegler-Gaddafi-relationship say Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) on the surface but actually link to UN Watch, incidentally the very institute that makes the accusations in the first place. I don't think accusations prove accusations. Could anyone please supply independent sources, for example by pointing to the actual "real" NZZ pages? SomPost 18:14, 01 December 2006 (UTC)