Talk:Jason Gillespie
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 |
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page. | ||
| ??? | This article has not yet received a rating on the Project's quality scale. Please rate the article and then leave a short summary here to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the article. [FAQ] | ||
Contents |
[edit] How much has Gillespie bowled in tests and ODIs?
The article stated that Gillespie had bowled 14180 test overs and 5144 ODI overs (as at 15 April 2006) but, as evidenced on his cricinfo page [1] (accessed 15 April 2006), the figures refer to deliveries he has bowled. Of course, the fact that he has played 70 test matches would mean that he would have bowled an average of over 200 overs per test for the over figure to be correct. --Roisterer 03:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV/unbalanced
Hello. I think this article has veered into POV, following the recent century. Almost half the article is about the Bangladesh tour, and the following gives the impression that he is a genius batsman
- Jason Gillespie's highest test score (201*) is better than those of such well recognised Australian batsmen as Steve Waugh (200), David Boon (200), Ian Chappell (196), Darren Lehmann (177), Damien Martyn (165) and Mark Waugh (153*).
It also almost exclusively addresses events only from the Ashes onwards. ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 01:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Why is his century any less genuine then any other batsman? Do we disregard from players stastics any scores they attained against weaker teams? Is Michael Husseys century against West Indies not counted because they are not the team they were ten years ago? A week ago everyone was saying how great Bangladesh were, and now Gillespie has made 201 against them they are no longer a valid international team. No other batsman has made 200 against Bangladesh in test cricket, now someone has it's Bangladesh fault not his achievement.
- 1/10 of this article is about the Travelex Tour of Bangladesh 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benben182 (talk • contribs).
I am not suggesting at all that we scale his statistics or not count his numbers against Bangladesh.
-
- The trivia paragraph I pointed out could possibly give the impression that Gillespie is a better batsman than those mentioned - which would be inappropriate. At Talk:Sachin Tendulkar, a reference to the term "golden arm" (a term which refers to his knack of being a partnership-breaker, and applies only to part-time bowlers) was removed because it possibly gave the impression that he was comparable to an exceptional specialist bowler.
- Counting the Bangladesh trivia gives about 20% on the current bangladesh tour. What I also meant was that excluding the generalities, most of the specific cricket events are from the Ashes onwards - the other being the Steve Waugh collision.
ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 06:26, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
No, it indicates that he has achieved something that they were unable to do. Bradman only made 0 in his last test, but his batting average reflects his ability with the bat, as does Gillespie’s.
There has also been greater interest in Gillespie post Ashes, that is why a substantial amount of information relates to this period in time. The majority of the information of this article was gathered post Ashes, feel free to gather pre ashes details on Gillespie to contribute to this article.
[edit] Batting
This looks a bit odd, but (as often happens) I'm not sure how to fix it:
- He has occasionally proven his worth with the bat, with a Test high of 201* and a one-day international high of 44*. He averages over 18 in Tests...'
I think it does need to be mentioned that before the 201, Gillespie's Test HS was 54; as things stand it gives the impression that he was a Warne-class batsman, regularly hitting 70s, 80s and 90s. On another note "busted feet" is clear, but not very encyclopaedic; could someone who knows the medical details fix that, please? Loganberry (Talk) 10:38, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Possible Copyright Violation
I have deleted a couple of bits from the Trivia section that were copied word for word from Cricinfo. Not sure where we stand with this so I though it was better to be safe than sorry.
Most of this article is lifted from Cricinfo. The claim that between his debut and the 2005 Ashes he played 52 tests is clearly a misinterpretation of Cricinfo's stat regarding his ealry career injury problems.
[edit] Dropped after 200
I believe that Jason Gillespie may be the only player ever in Test Cricket to be dropped after scoring 200. Can anybody confirm this? GK1 15:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
