User talk:JamieBattenbo

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[edit] Welcome!

Welcome!

Hello JamieBattenbo, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  Extraordinary Machine 23:14, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use images on templates

Hi. You recreated the template Template:User UK SF which contained a copyrighted image upon which the fair use doctrine was being claimed by Wikipedia. The fair use doctrine for us only applies for educational purposes, which does not include stuff used outside of the main namespace (even the Main Page probably can't have fair use images). Please try to remember not to include fair use images in userboxes or your own user space again, as it is a breach of copyright. - Mark 01:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rational Skepticism

Hey Jamie, I've got the wikiproject page up and running. You can now put your name under Participants and add to the website as much as you like. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Rational_Skepticism Maprov

[edit] Wikipedia:Welsh Wikipedians' notice board

I've created a fairly simple Wikipedia:Welsh Wikipedians' notice board (shortcut WP:WWNB) to try to get things started. Please have a look and consider signing on, adding it to your watchlist and helping to make sure any users with an interest in the subject know about it. Also please feel free to add things and to change anything you feel needs changing – I'm not under the impression that I own it! Rhion 20:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ty Glas

There is no such area in Cardiff, having previously had to commute to Ty Glas railway station. One of the business parks to the north is called Parc Tŷ Glas, and the HMRC buildings have the address Parc Tŷ Glas, Llanishen, Cardiff. The station serves Cardiff Business Park, Cardiff Industrial Park, Parc Tŷ Glas, and some of the places on Maes-y-Coed Road (including Tesco management), but there's definitely no area called "Ty Glas". I tagged this for AfD but can't put the subpage up, but since you're the only person that has put anything useful on there you should be able to use {{deletebecause}}, stating that you made an innocent mistake. Valley Lines stations in and around Cardiff itself get a lot of people caught out (self included :-) Hwyl! (20:23, 10 February 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Crossing flags

Please do not cross flags on your user page. This may offend others and is even considered a crime in many countries. I am sure you are able to express your valuable opinion in a respectful way. Imagine someone crossed the flag of your country - also a union. ROGNNTUDJUU! 21:36, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't cross out the EU flag (If thats the flag you are talking about). It was already crossed out when I put the userbox on my userpage. --JamieBattenbo 12:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Using the divisive user box someone else created is not better than setting it up yourself. Wikipedia policy says divisive userboxes should not be used. Please show some respect and delete it. You are free to express whatever your concerns are without a crossed out official symbol that represents hundreds of millions of people. ROGNNTUDJUU! 12:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm one of thoes hundreds of millions of people. --JamieBattenbo 12:55, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Please show some respect for those others who feel represented by the flag. There is no reason to cross out the flag, there are hundreds of other ways to express your opinion in a respectful way. ROGNNTUDJUU! 13:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
If I have the right to dress-up as a suicide bomber outside a Danish Embassy and burn an Danish flag, I am well with my rights to show a crossed-out flag on my userpage. --JamieBattenbo 21:32, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
For sure you have that right. You also have the right to show some respect. Have a good time here. ROGNNTUDJUU! 23:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
This user thinks that users should be able to cross out any flag they want. And any user who has a problem with that is showing a lack of respect for their fellow user.
I pity those who do not even understand the concept of respect. ROGNNTUDJUU! 20:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Then you apparently also have pity on youself? Misza13 T C 20:28, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
This from someone who calls those he disagrees with trolls and vandals... ROGNNTUDJUU! 15:54, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
But ROGNNTUDJUU!, you are a troll and a vandal. --JamieBattenbo 16:01, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for showing that you just do not know what respect is. Meanwhile, Misza even vandalises my talk page. How civil. ROGNNTUDJUU! 16:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I've seen what Misza did to your talk page and any one of the three of us are vandals, it realy is you. --JamieBattenbo 16:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Reverting other users' talk pages because you disagree with how they answer posts there is vandalism, period. ROGNNTUDJUU! 16:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Glad you agree, because that's exactly what you've been doing by deleting other user's comments from your talk page. --JamieBattenbo 16:37, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry that you are not familiar with the English language. "Other users' talk pages" means the talk pages of someone else. ROGNNTUDJUU! 17:02, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
So you're a troll, a vandal and a bully. you can't argue with my point so you make fun of my dyslexia. somone with a username that is complete giberish is not in any position to insult even my familiarity with the english language. --JamieBattenbo 17:13, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
What do you expect if you are rude and condescending while contradicting yourself? ROGNNTUDJUU! 17:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Whan did I contradict myself? --JamieBattenbo 17:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
You wrote reverting other users' talk pages because you disagree with how they answer posts there is "exactly what you've been doing by deleting other user's comments from your talk page." That is just illogic and please do not start nitpicking by writing "it was sick what I wrote but the sickness did not exactly contradict itself." ROGNNTUDJUU! 18:32, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
This is How I see things: You deleted other user's coments from your talk page (an act of vandalism), Misza replaces the comments you deleted, you accuse Misza of vandalism. --JamieBattenbo 19:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Deleting other users' comments from my talk page after answering them is not vandalism. Reverting on other users' talk pages is. ROGNNTUDJUU! 01:34, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I believe policy is to archive old comments, not delete them. --JamieBattenbo 15:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
It is up to the user. You should not talk down others because you have some guess about what policies might be. By the way, here you have a picture of someone who would be happy if he could join the EU: Belarusian demonstrant ROGNNTUDJUU! 16:08, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Here is a page about a man that wanted to unite europe in a slightly different way. --JamieBattenbo 16:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Here is an organization that ensures guys like this have no chance in today's Europe. ROGNNTUDJUU! 00:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I have nothing againts people who support the European Union. What I object to is another layer of goverment that wastes money on administrator and red tape, that should be spent on Health care and helping Developing country. --JamieBattenbo 20:55, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
While the EU like all governments does waste some money, especially on agricultural subsidies, it has however helped a great deal to spread prosperity and civil liberties in its member countries like Spain, Portugal, Greece and the new Eastern countries and even in aspirant Turkey where the death penalty was abolished. You would not cross out the symbol of a soccer club because it would be offensive to the supporters, so why do you do so with a symbol millions feel represented by? Interesting however that you use the Iraq template I created. ROGNNTUDJUU! 11:35, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Agricultural subsidies? Is that what you call giving an already rich, french farmer a hot-tub? And if you think I care about offending a bunch of soccer hooligans, you really don't know me. As for {{User independent Iraq}}, call it a gesture of truce, because if I actually hated you, I'd create my own userbox (that was standard size). --JamieBattenbo 19:47, 01 April 2006 (UTC)
Only question I have about the agricultural subsidies is if we imported all our food from where it is cheapest what would become of all the good soil we have? An economics professor once answered me "it would be used for some kind of gardening". I think that is unrealistic and I think it is somehow part of our culture to engage in agriculture and it should not be abolished completely and the soil should not be wasted. Furthermore, transporting all the food would lead to unnecessary pollution and transport costs are unfairly priced because of the lack of taxes on aviation fuel. However, subsidies are way too high, and the existence of mechanisms that lead to exports to countries where production is by far cheaper is a shame.
Seen my new boxes? ROGNNTUDJUU! 12:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Devolutionist or Republican?

Hi. I was curious as to how you could claim to be both an Irish Republican (despite the fact that you're apparently Welsh), a supporter of Sinn Féin, AND a supporter of Devolution in Northern Ireland. Sinn Féin and certainly Republicans, do not support devolution. --Mal 10:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

When I original put {{user Devolution}} on my userpage it was about devolution for all of the UK. However, since then, that userbox has been deleted and replace by the current Irish version. I have now corrected my oversight by creating {{user independent Cornwall}}. --JamieBattenbo 16:01, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. :) Question for you though.. with all these parts of the UK split up into tiny little independent countries, how do you expect them to be particularly economically viable? Don't you think there is strength in unity? Cheers. --Mal 06:36, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Republic of Ireland, Channel Islands and Isle of Man seem to be doing fine by themselves. --JamieBattenbo 16:44, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
The Channels and the Isle of Man both have a certain amount of help and support. The Republic, having been a developing country for many years, has enjoyed a lot of help from the EU and the phenomenon that is consistant with the move from a developing country to a developed country. Obviously, in the case of the RoI, hats off to the hard work of its government. Northern Ireland too, enjoyed reasonable economic success before the Troubles. Personally, I would of course support devolution for those regions such as Cornwall, if I thought the majority of its residents desired it. I'm not sure that such small areas would enjoy great economical success though. Certainly I think they'd suffer a severe drop in standard of living in the immediate aftermath of independence though. Scotland might fare a lot better, if they were allowed control of North Sea Oil etc. Thanks for your reply. --Mal 04:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Many Celts don't like being dictated to by the English.
Area of UK No. of MPs
Nothern Ireland 18
Scotland 059
Wales 040
Cornwall 005
Rest of England 524

With the English having almost 80% of the seats in the British House of Commons, a goverment that was elected only in english constituencies could pass any law they wanted. An example of this is the flooding of Capel Celyn to create a reservoir for Liverpool. Another exanmple is Charles Clarke's plan to merge all the police forces in wales into a single forces. --JamieBattenbo 20:55, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Censorship

Hi there, our template for support of the Iraqi resistance was speedy deleted in spite of consensus to keep it, I complained here and here. ROGNNTUDJUU! 02:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Does it realy suprise you that an administrator has deleted a userbox that they disagree with? Break down the word, admin-is-trator. --JamieBattenbo 16:27, 05 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attacks, and removal of checkuser notice

I must ask you to stop your attacks on administrators with whom you disagree. Another worrying aspect of your conduct is your removal of a notice in which official checkuser information about a sock puppet was displayed. This kind of informative notice is essential to the smooth running of Wikipedia. Do not do this again. --Tony Sidaway 15:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I must ask you and your fellow admin-is-trators to stop your attacks on users with whom you disagree. I removed that notice because I do not believe you have any actual evidence that ROGNNTUDJUU! is a sock puppet. The only smooth running of Wikipedia you care about is one where everybody does what you say. --JamieBattenbo 00:15, 08 April 2006 (BST)
There you go again. "admin-is-trator" is clearly a calculated slur and you're assuming bad faith about David Gerard's checkuser, which is a routine tool. If you don't stop this I'm afraid you'll have to be blocked until you learn not to flout Wikipedia's policies. --Tony Sidaway 23:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I believe "admin-is-trator" is a fair term for an administrator who abuses their position. As for David Gerard's checkuser, this is the first time i've even heard of this "routine tool" and I have yet to see any actual results that would constitute proof.--JamieBattenbo 00:53, 08 April 2006 (BST)
Well, you have been editing Wikipedia for a little more than three months, so it's understandable that you don't know how things work on Wikipedia. For reasons related to the privacy of the target, we can't publicly disclose the results of a checkuser investigation, but checkuser power is only given to people who are trusted. As it happens, David Gerard is a guy that I've known on the net for about ten years. He now lives across the park from me and I've bought him a jar or two at the local pub. But even if that were not the case, the fact that he's trusted with checkuser access would be enough. It's fine to criticise and question his judgement, but please try to do so from a position of knowledge rather than what appears, in this instance, to be pure ignorance. As for your use of the term "admin-is-trator" well as you say it is an implicit attack on any administrator. By referring to someone by that name, you are saying that the administrator has abused his powers. We have a dispute resolution procedure that applies to all editors, including administrators. Please use it and stop the personal attacks. --Tony Sidaway 00:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
I first used the term "admin-is-trator" after an administrator deleted a userbox that had been voted to keep (see "Censorship" above). I saw this as an abuse of their position and that they had betrayed (become a traitor to) the users who voted to keep the userbox. As for "checkuser", if it is an invasion of privacy to disclose the results, isn't it also an invasion of privacy to use checkuser. I guess I should stop their in case I get accused of being a sock puppet. --JamieBattenbo 19:17, 9 April 2006 (BST)
I don't think you're a sock puppet, I just think you're ill-informed. Pages can be deleted from Wikipedia even if lots of people want them to remain on the site. Wikipedia isn't a democracy. As for checkuser, all websites record information about users. Checkuser is a tool, permission to use which is delegated to a very few highly trusted users, that enables Wikipedia to detect certain kinds of abuse of the website. --Tony Sidaway 01:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
What about Consensus and Supermajority.--JamieBattenbo 22:19, 10 April 2006 (BST)
Yes, what about them? --Tony Sidaway 11:30, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ranks and insignia of Starfleet

You might be interested in this article. --Cool CatTalk|@ 20:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Irish given names

Hi Jamie! Did you start this page? If so, could you state the sources you used? Cheers, Fergananim 16:09, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

The only involvement I have had with this page is a minor redirect that I quickly reverted. I don't know why you came to me, your should check the page's history section. --Jamie Battenbo 18:22, 9 May 2006 (BST)

[edit] Category:Dyslexic Wikipedians

Category:Dyslexic Wikipedians which you have included on your user page has been proposed for deletion you can comment at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Wikipedians by mental condition. --Salix alba (talk) 16:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] May userbox policy poll

Hi. You're a supporter of userboxes, and there's currently a policy poll going on about userboxes that might solve the speedy deletion issue. I encourage you to vote if you haven't already. Thank you. Dtm142 21:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pictures

Enlarge

Hi Jamie,

Can you please think whether photographs are any good before uploading them? As you noted yourself, this is 'low res'. Camera phones aren't the right equipment to be taking photos of trains (and even then the composition isn't particularly good). There must be some quality control somewhere. — Dunc|☺ 10:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

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