Talk:James M. Gavin

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Contents 1 German article 2 German text 3 Images 4 Age on arrival at West Point

[edit] German article

The German page is remarkably longer and more informative than this! Is there any chance we can translate it? (And by "we", I mean "someone else". I don't read German.)Phiwum 19:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

If someone translate it, please stop at beginning of WW2 period. I'm working there at the time, so u would have to translate again if i changed the part. Regards, John N. 12:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

• Have started working on it (first couple paras done). John N - are you working this on the .de site or also working on trans? Bridesmill 22:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on .de (I work on the book Paratrooper: Gen. James M. Gavin by Michael T. Booth and Duncan Spencer). So I am translating but not from a Wikipedia and I haven't that much time to write the same in the english Wikipedia (my english isn't that good anyway). Kind Regards an best wishes, John N. 12:14, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Eeek, as I'm working on the translation - given that the German piece is tanslated from the English, does anyone have access to the Booth & Spencer book who would be willing to work straight from that? prob faster (& more accurate) than the double translation. Bridesmill 21:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, started translation on some selected bits as the work seems to have dropped off a bit. --MarcoLittel 11:26, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I've managed to translate it all until the 1st half of the Sicily campaign. The german article starts to trail off into extremely detailed and contraadictory statements, I'm not sure what to make of this. I'll try to condense this a abit, and look for resolving the contradictions.--MarcoLittel 16:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You're doing a terrific job. I would just caution you slightly that this is an article about General Gavin, not the exploits of the 82nd Airborne Division in WW2. A lot of the combat history can be condensed in this article or cited by reference to articles such as Operation Husky rather than being repeated here. DMorpheus 16:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

You're right. I've just added some bits that can be condensed. Will finish translating this section then remove the bits without gavin's exploits. The German bit looks like they just copied a lot of the book?--MarcoLittel 17:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Could you please clarify why my translated bit about Italian operations was removed?--MarcoLittel 09:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] German text

Dumping this here prior to translation Andreas 10:56, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Moved to Talk:James M. Gavin/German text. -- John N. 12:20, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I've searched for Images of Gavin for several months and found an collection at http://www.carlisle.army.mil/usamhi/ (Research Catalogs → fill in "James M. Gavin" → several hits, e.g. "photograph collection"). The Army Heritage & Education Center is located at 950 Soldiers Drive, Carlisle, PA 17013-5021. I would order the stuff but the only way to receive it is to take a look at Carlisle for it, which is impossible for me. Would be great if someone could do it for me, or find someone else to do it and to ask for, wheather the stuff is in the PD or the GNU FDL. Regards, John N. 12:28, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Age on arrival at West Point

I'm confused by the statement that Gavin put on his application for West Point that he was 21, not 18, since he was too young to apply. Most applicants to West Point are, in fact, 17 or 18 years old. George B. McClellan was accepted at West Point at 14 in 1842, with our article on him stating "the academy having waived their normal minimum age of 16." Currently, "Each candidate must: be 17 but not yet 23 years of age by July 1 of year admitted." [1] So, I don't see why being 18 would be a hurdle. --Habap 15:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It's a statement I mistranslated from the German Wikipedia page of General Gavin. Fixed, thanks for the pointing out.--MarcoLittel 16:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)