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Contents 1 Condolences, Memorials 2 Other 3 Copyright violations? 4 Modern picture 5 Marriages, children 6 middlefinger 7 Post-War Service in Europe 8 Early Career in Canada 9 Grandfather 10 Ashes in Space... 11 Relationship with Shatner 12 NPOV?

[edit] Condolences, Memorials

The word is given Mr. Scott. Engage. 1920-2005

Post your condolences and memorials here

( Though I *am* a Star Trek fan, it just breaks my heart to know that a man who was such an important part of a seminal contribution to human culture is losing his faculties. :(

It is sad, but now that he's died, I'm sure he's in heaven. I just wish we had an internet article relating to his death, so we could add that.Bedford

You mean like these? --BradBeattie 16:51, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

You'll note I finally found one to add. Bedford 12:21, 20 July 2005 (EST)

A great man once said that ye cannae change the laws of physics. Well, Scotty, up there, you can. Have fun! Bryan Jones

May he be a continual source of inspiration to all engineers, present and future. --Wombat

RIP, Scotty -- ya gave her all she got, boyo!!!! (anon)

I guess he just didn't have enough pu'er. Bye Scotty, now you've beamed up I'm gonna watch a truckload of TOS and celebrate your life! Mikademus

I guess God decided it was time to beam him up. Rest in peace Scotty.

JesseG 03:16, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Rest in peace my friend. --Admiral Roo 10:16, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for all the kind words about my Dad, James Doohan. He really loved his fans and being known as "Scotty". We hope you will attend the launch on dec. 6th - at least in spirit. Deirdre Doohan.

Diedre, your father was the best. A great legend. May he rest in peace....--Joel Lindley 15:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other

The dates don't seem to add up. It says married he was married for 28 years. From 1974-2005 should be at least 30 or 31 years right?

Just a formatting note: The ISBN links should only include "ISBN", and not include the numbers, IMHO - I was expecting to see some information on the book when I clicked those, but was taken to the ISBN page.

Yes.. he would have celebrated his 31st wedding anniversary to Wende last week (oct. 05).

[edit] Copyright violations?

The edit performed by Fdewaele at 16:50, 20 July 2005 seems to have at least a couple portions that are copied directly from the Associated Press article about Doohan's death.

Here's a link to that article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050720/ap_on_en_tv/obit_doohan

The relevant portions are the discussion of Doohan's experiences on D-Day, and the discussion of his family history. -- Colden46 19:18, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

• Yes, I noticed that too. Although people have subsequently tweaked the text, that doesn't fix the copyvio, since the current text is clearly based on the AP article. What is the right thing to do, delete it or add the copyvio marker? 128.2.203.136 20:59, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

I've rewritten all of these additions, which is the "right thing to do". --Dhartung | Talk 21:02, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Modern picture

Should we also add a more recent picture of him? Bedford 16:01, 20 July 2005 (EST)

I think He should be remembered as both the man, in the height of his acting career, and the older, wiser, man.

[edit] Marriages, children

Can we check how many children he had? - most of the obituaries I've read say seven, but we seem to be listing nine! -- Arwel 23:18, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Fixed. He had no children by his second wife. --Dhartung | Talk 04:26, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I am his second daughter, Deirdre, from his first marriage. The article is true - 4 kids from first and 3 from third..no kids with Anita (second wife). Associated Press had it wrong... and the word spread.

[edit] middlefinger

the story how he lost his finger, is it true? in de: someone deleted that recently. --141.53.194.251 13:42, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

It's in published obituaries. -- Arwel 17:25, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Post-War Service in Europe

Captain J.M. 'James' Doohan, RCA, served with my father, Gunner R.D. Knight, RCA, while both were members of 666 (AOP) Squadron, RCAF, stationed at Apeldoorn, Holland, in the summer and autumn of 1945. The recollection my father had of Captain Doohan was of driving him and other officers out to their assigned Auster aircraft, while my father was a qualified chauffeur/staff driver in 666 (AOP) squadron, months after the cessation of hostilities in the ETO. It was common knowledge in the squadron that Doohan was an exceptional pilot - as many of the officers were - and often picked for air taxi duties the squadron engaged in, while tasked with flying senior officers from #1 Canadian Army HQ in Apeldoorn, to and from Germany. A spartan but excellent reference to this history is found in the 32-page book the squadron produced while it was still serving in Holland, entitled "Battle History 666" (1945)(2006)... Darrell Knight <abelbookcompany@shaw.ca>

[edit] Early Career in Canada

If memory serves, before James Doohan became "Scotty", he played the role of an officer, if not captain, of a space ship travelling the galaxy. This was a sci-fi series that ran for perhaps a year or two on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. I like to think that that series already set him up for the role of Scotty in Star Trek. I'd appreciate it if anyone can confirm my recollection.

Ed Treister <edtreister@yahoo.com>

It's in his IMDb entry: "Space Command". --Dhartung | Talk 19:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes, he lost his finger on D-day. He was shot several times in chest, leg, etc. but only noticed his hand at first. It's a great and true story - I should know, I'm his daughter, Deirdre.

[edit] Grandfather

He claimed his grandfather, Thomas Doohan, was Chief Constable of Belfast. [1] There was no such rank in the RIC at the time. There was a rank of "Head Constable" see - http://www.4qd.org/biog/rgt.html - and http://www.psni.police.uk/index/pg_police_museum/pg_principal_ranks.htm - this was a non-commisioned rank above a sergeant far below what one might think of with the term chief constable. Jooler 03:25, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ashes in Space...

Anyone know if this went as planned? The article still says that they're planned to be launched on 6 December 2005 Vash The Stampede 07:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relationship with Shatner

I've just noticed the paragraph asserting hostility between JD and WD is identical to the paragraph asserting the same in George Takei's page. Seems a bit suspect. Toby Douglass 16:37, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV?

In the legacy section of the article, it states that the Apollo 11 landing was "arguably the greatest engineering achievement in human history." While I don't necessarily dispute the statement or agree with it, It seems NPOV to me. Perhaps a more neutral wording or a citation could be arranged, or else I think that particular sentance isn't all that necessary anyway. A possibility of the top of my head, "one the most famous events in spacefaring history". There are so many engineering achievements in human history, I think that unless you have a list or article citing that a legitimate body thinks that the Apollo 11 landing was the greatest engineering achievements in history... TheHYPO 09:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

That the Apollo 11 landing may be the greatest engineering achievement in human history is very possibly true and a legitimate statement to include, and given that, the coincidence of dates is ironic and worth inclusion.

Davidkevin 00:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)