Talk:Jake Gyllenhaal

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[edit] WPBIO taking up miles of space

Can we at least put it at the bottom of this page? Dev920 00:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Before we get into an edit war - let's see what other editors think - should the tags at the top,stay or should they go? --Charlesknight 21:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok. In the meantime, can we please be rid of it, as it clearly irritates me far more than you. Dev920 22:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, it needs to be at the top, because of the living person box. Otherwise no one will see it and it's a very important policy. This isn't debatable, since WP:BLP warning now needs to be on every Talk page of any article on a living person. It's not taking up that much room anyway, much less miles. plange 22:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good article and Peer review

I put the article up for Good Article Nomination, I think it meets the criteria. Stevenscollege 20:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh god, not more tags. Dev920 21:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Maybe a peer review as well? Dev920 21:02, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

And that's quite a bit down to the good work performed by DEv920 (I forget the numbers for the moment) and people like yourself.

--Charlesknight 21:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou Charles! Dev920 21:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Just because I've got a stick up my arse does not mention I don't appreciate good editing :) --Charlesknight 08:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, peer review would be good Stevenscollege 21:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Should we do that before, during or after the GA process?
Now I think, even if the article doesnt pass any advice on how to improve it wouldnt go a miss Stevenscollege 21:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, added. Now we wait. :D Dev920 22:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Thats great Dev920, thanks for that Stevenscollege 22:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I put the peer review tag on, I know how much you hate them Dev920, but its for a good cause Stevenscollege 22:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

sorry dev , I see what you did22:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)Stevenscollege
GRRR. Dev920 22:28, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

If you don't get much response on the peer review, you can try doing the peer review through WP:BIOGRAPHY plange 22:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Will do. You should really add Peer Review Bio to the list of related peer reviews: I didn't know it existed, or I would have put it there. Dev920 22:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Cool, will do-- we just added the peer review process recently and this step got neglected :-) plange 00:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Zero response on Peer Review, adding to Bio as well. Dev920 16:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I saw the submission on Bio Peer Review and put some comments there now especially so that the article can get GA status. RelHistBuff 16:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Have dealt with points raised. Working some more on them. Also, is it just me or has that senetnce about Jake being viewed as an international sex symbol strangely vanished from Personal Life, even though the code is still there in the edit box? Dev920 17:54, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I saw the suggestions on the WP:Bio, youve done alot of good work on here today Dev.Stevenscollege 18:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! But will it be enough, is the question? Dev920 19:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
wow, you have been busy, the personal life section looks great, a whole lot better, good stuff.Stevenscollege 19:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I found the rock the vote video with Jake and Peter on youtube and linked to it.Stevenscollege 19:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

If you go to the "edit this page" to edit theres a passage in the personal life section that starts "Jake is also politically active..." but it doesnt come up on the main page, why is this?Stevenscollege 21:04, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't like multiple references. I don't know why. I have removed them. Dev920 21:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture.

I have emailed Ally at IHJ to ask her if she will release one of her photos of Jake into the public domain. In the meantime, I will put up a ohoto of him that I found under the Press ection of his website, and claim it as fair use. I hope it is. Dev920 17:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bisexual quote

Regarding Gbambino's addition, I think it should stay. I have removed the previous duplicate quote. We have been looking for a reputable source to mention this for some time: what is more reputable than GLAAD? Dev920 21:29, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Im all for it, and its been a while since we`ve had any incidences with people deleting things that imply anything other than rampaging heterosexuality, so I hope it stays, however if you follow the link from the GLAAD site, you go to the OUT interview with a credit for a journalist, Bruce Shenitz and thats what we`re all about here, references we can point to.Stevenscollege 21:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Actually forget that the interview doesnt say that,oopsStevenscollege 21:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why IHJ should have a link.

From WP:EL:

Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as professional athlete statistics, screen credits, interviews, or online textbooks.

IHJ has links to interviews, downloadable video of Jake interviews and footage of award ceremonies, and the world's largest gallery of pictures of Jake. I feel it has meaningful content that cannot be dumped into this article, and in addition to that IHJ is the hub of everything Jake online. It has reports of people who have met Jake, with photos, it has updates on his work and whereabouts, and therefore I think it should be included. Can we add it now?Dev920 23:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


Under that basis - yes. However I'll delete any attempts to add random blogs - WP:EL allows for one fan site (and that's if it's mandated). I'd have to see a very strong case for another to be added (considering we have two).Two? What's the other one?

You are referring to JW? Hardly random, but its quality has severely gone downhill recently, so I wouldn't reccommend adding it anymore.Dev920 23:36, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I've added the picture of Jake that Ally sent me; it's a little low quality, but frankly, she didn't have to give to us (and she asked someone else for it as well) and I'm extremely grateful to her. YAY Ally! Dev920 11:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Trivia

A lot of these trivia things are mentioned in the article, someone took a lot of time on this but it doesnt look rightStevenscollege 22:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

There were no ref. beside any of the trivia and it looked a bit odd so I deleted it, but as I said someone took time to do it and I didnt enjoy deleting it but still if people want it back it should be discussed.Stevenscollege 22:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Almost all of it I know is true (well, was mentioned in interviews I read). Next time I have a major lets-edit-Jake's-article night, I'll source the useful bits (it matters to no-one that Jake gave Kirtsen a kitten, I think - at the very least it should be on Kirsten's page, not Jake's) and add them to the appropriate place in the article. Dev920 23:47, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jamie Lee Curtis

The article states that "he counts Jamie Lee Curtis as his godmother" now that she is his godmother. These are very different things. This article implies that he consider Jamie Lee and her husband two gay men.

[edit] GA on Hold

Everything's all good except this paragraph, nothing is sourced

Jake Gyllenhaal made his film debut at age eleven in City Slickers (1991), as the son of Billy Crystal's character. However, his parents would not allow him to appear in The Mighty Ducks, as he would have been away from home for two months. Gyllenhaal also played opposite Jennifer Aniston in another Sundance Film Festival favourite in 2002's The Good Girl, having previously earned critical acclaim for his role in Lovely and Amazing with Catherine Keener. In both films, he plays an unstable character who begins a reckless affair with an older woman. Gyllenhaal also starred in the Touchstone Pictures romantic comedy Bubble Boy. Loosely based on the story of David Vetter, the film portrays the title character's adventure outside the confines of his bubble as he goes after the woman he loves before she marries the wrong man. He also starred in blockbuster The Day After Tomorrow (2004), which co-starred Dennis Quaid as his father.

Fix that and i'll pass it

(The Bread 04:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC))

Iv found references for the information in the paragraph.Stevenscollege 22:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

All fine, just this bit (In bold) about his critical acclaim to cite

(The Bread 04:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC))

I re-wrote the paragraph a bit, I think its fine now.Stevenscollege 18:57, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Passed

See above. Good Work everyone

(The Bread 23:01, 8 September 2006 (UTC))


[edit] Good Article

This is great news, Its a superb article esp. compared with other actors articles and our relentless references and sources cant be beat, and there is only 1419 Good Articles on the whole Wikipedia. Thanks should go to Dev920 who`s done more than anyone on Jakes page, so the next step is A class, but we shouldnt rest until we get FA class with the gold star, who do I have to sleep with to get this star.Stevenscollege 23:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! We did it!!!!!! So happy!!!! That's it, barnstars for everyone!Dev920 10:45, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Making the article even better

On the peer review page there are suggestions from Rossrs from 27th Aug. which I think are great and which I havnt seen till now! which is pretty stupid since im the one who wanted it peer reviewed but still Rossrs suggestions will put us on a path to the gold star.Stevenscollege 00:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there's been a lot of suggestions on the review. I think if we implement them all they'll probably carry us to A-class without that much more effort, don't you think? Dev920 10:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] quick note.

I've messed up the html on the references but have to leave the house right now, can someone else fix it please? Dev920

Done. --Muchness 12:32, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Dev920 20:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Movies

Ok, it occurred to me, as I was editing Jake's Career, that Donnie Darko, despite being an iconic film, has only a brief mention in the one big happy Gyllenhaal family paragraph! The article also doesn't mention Josh and S.A.M., Highway, Moonlight Mile, or The Man who walked between the Towers. These need to go in if we're to have a chance at FAC, methinks... Dev920 20:02, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Good, well done stevensollege. I think Josh and S.A.M. only needs to be mentioned in passing and the only notable thing I can think of about Highway is that it went straight to video, apparently. Does that make it Jake's worst role choice ever? Dev920 20:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kirsten in the NOTW

Theres a revealing interview in The news of the world which sheds some light on her break up with Jake, the obvious things caught my eye "We tried to spice things up — we had sex in cars, in the bathroom and even by the sea" there you go.Stevenscollege 12:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Dev920 20:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
we`re on the same wavelength Dev.Stevenscollege 21:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 :D Dev920 21:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


Isn't this the bit where I scream "not without a source!" - Let's face it, it is the news of the screws, they post any PR piece - even better if it makes SOMEONE look a virile hetrosexual... :) --Charlesknight 21:28, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Quite. Unless there is incriminating evidence otherwise...
Is it me or is it slightly strange that the editors to American actor Jake Gyllenhaal's article are all British? Dev920 21:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

I took another look at that Trivia section today, and most of it is already in the article. I added a thing about his missout of Spiderman 2, but I think we can consider that little seam mined. Interestingly, it seems to have been copied. Plagiarism, or a Jake fan proclaiming her love on every avenue? Dev920 21:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FA

We haven't got any new responses since we got GA. And we've also now included all of his career, so I can't think of anything that is relevant and not in the article. Shall we nom for FA? Dev920 06:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I will take that as a yes then. Dev920 20:03, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Good work all round I think. --Charlesknight 21:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Release date sources

I notice one film is cited to the IMDB for its release date. IMDB is frankly not a reliable source for anything anymore - not trivia and other info about actors, nor box office nor past or future release dates. http://www.comingsoon.net is good for upcoming release dates, though. Hope that helps, Mad Jack 03:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Have changed it, thankyou very much. Dev920 16:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FAC was failed on Sept. 21

Keep working on this one. It is not that far from FA status. Do NOT just give up on it and throw up another unprepared candidate!! In any case, here are some lessons to take to heart anyway: 1) always provide FULL bibliographic refs (author, date, publication, title, access date where necessary) BEFORE applying for FA status. Do it for EVERY reference and for EVERY article anyway. 2) Try to present as much criticism and as many different views as possible BEFORE applying for FA status. 3) Get as much input as possible from experienced writers and editors from all over Wikipedia BEFORE applying for FA status. 4) Learn, learn, learn and pratice, practice, practice. --Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 07:37, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Early life section

I restored it to before "Career", for the purpose of chronological order, so to speak. It's usually customary to have that section before career, i.e. all of the other entertaiments FAs (Diane Keaton, Uma Thurman, Mandy Moore, etc.) Mad Jack 05:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It's featured!!!!!

So happy. So very, very, happy. Yay! Dev920 (Tory?) 16:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! Never Mystic (tc) 22:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Congrats! Good to see another actor article join the pack Mad Jack 04:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Good job! This is one of the best page for actors! Modelwatcher 18:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photo?

What happened to the photo?

What photo? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 16:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] mother

Just passing by this page and wanted to mention to regular editors that it's a little confusing to have his mother listed in the intro sentence as Naomi Foner but in the body of the piece as Naomi Achs - I don't know which is preferable, so I didn't change it - but it doesn't make sense to have it the way it is now. Nice page, however - particularly impressive refs. Tvoz 04:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, someone keeps changing it, I'm not sure why, given she's known as Naomi Foner. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 07:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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