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I don't think article is anywhere near bad enough to need the cleanup tag! I'm not a regular editor of this article, so I'll leave it for someone else to remove it or not.. -- Chuq 02:45, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I think this picture should be merged into the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jakarta_slumlife65.JPG

Contents 1 Skyline 2 Orang Betawi 3 Tanjung Priok / Tandjung Priok 4 Stupid 5 The Map 6 Lists 7 Removal of image? 8 Metro Area 9 Senator Barack Obama, D-Illinois 10 Twin Towns 11 three in one rule 12 Motorbike new rule 13 More history

[edit] Skyline

This article could use a good daytime picture of the Jakarta skyline. TheCoffee 13:53, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Orang Betawi

Minor edit on Orang Betawi, the ethnic group which has inhabited what is now Jakarta since the 17th Century. Were referred to as "Betawinese" and incorrectly described as anyone born in Jakarta. Google records less than 60 hits for "Betawinese", and it is not a term I had seen used elsewhere. I have therefore used the Indonesian term for the group. --Kutu 05:45, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why introduce an indonesian word? It has no meaning in english. The translaton would be "Betawi people" or Betawinese, like it was. I vote for "Betawi people" if the "-nese" looks too pretentious. --216.116.87.110 18:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tanjung Priok / Tandjung Priok

Hi @all, can anybody indonesian expert have a look after Tandjung Priok? I added a hint to the sailship fleet. And I am a littel bit unsure about the name´s spelling. Regards BerndB 17:12, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm no expert, but I've moved it to Tanjung Priok - "Tandjung Priok" is a valid, but outdated, spelling, just like "Djakarta" is an old spelling of "Jakarta". (See Indonesian_language#Writing_system). I've got some reasonable pictures of the pinisi sailing ships - I'll see about digging them up eventually. CDC (talk) 17:31, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stupid

I'm probably going to make myself look pretty stupid here, but I can't see Jakarta highlighted on the "Map of Indonesia showing Jakarta". It doesn't help that I don't know where Jakarta is in Indonesia, but it is not obvious to me. Am I missing something? Can somebody put me out of my misery, please? Cheers TigerShark 17:43, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Jakarta is on the northwest coast of Java, which is the second large island in the southern chain of islands, counting from the left. If you look reeeealy closely, you can see maybe three bright green pixels highlighting Jakarta. Obviously, this needs to be fixed, but I don't have the tools right now. If someone wants to do it, you could look at the map for Yogyakarta for one possibility. Oh, and don't feel stupid - it's the map's fault. CDC (talk) 18:27, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

You are right, there are exactly three pixels that are sufficiently highlighted. :/ Someone should fix that... Coffee 20:27, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Map

Looks like you're using an old map! Because nowdays, the Goverment of Indonesia have split some provice (like Riau now become Riau and Kepulauan Riau). Can you update the map???

Who's "you"?  :-) Wikipedia depends on contributions from everybody. If you feel strongly about this, why don't you make an updated map and upload it? Please sign your comments by using four tildes '~'. Julius.kusuma 14:18, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have the newer map, but I just want to suggest the maker of this article to search or make a newer one. Ali Wardhana 07:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC) 7:35 27 April 2006 (UTC) NB: Now I put my sign...right? :)

[edit] Lists

The education and shopping mall sections contain lists that are unwieldy and in my opinion are not very useful. If there are no objections I intend to edit the lists out and replace it with something more verbose, and hopefully more meaningful. Jakarta is a large city, and listing every university and "shopping mall" is just unnecessary. Thoughts? Julius.kusuma 20:19, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I absolutely agree - most other articles about major cities and national capitals don't list every school and mall. Instead, text describing a few highlights of each is much more informative. So let's mention the U of Indonesia, Blok M, or whatever places are unusual or of national repute (I don't know what those would be; I hardly know Jakarta), but that's it. CDC (talk) 20:46, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of image?

User 24.199.83.253, why do you insist on removing the image Image:Jakarta slumlife71.JPG ? Julius.kusuma 04:43, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Reply =>I'm terribly Sorry for deleting the Pictures but I believe together we should promote Jakarta as a Beautiful city so please do not post pictures of Slumlife,Poverty,Economy Crisis and all that is bad in Jakarta.as those Pictures give bad Images/Bad Reputation of My City,Jakarta in The Worlds Eyes.And I reqest to remove the Problems Topic and the Econmoy Crisis 1998 Link as they give bad Reputation to Jakarta. Do Post Pictures of Beautiful Jakarta.Skyline,Entertainment,Culture,etc. Thanks and Enjoy Jakarta!

Fahrian, Please sign your posts (on talk pages, for example) use the '~' symbol. To insert just your name, type ~~~ (3 tildes), or, to insert your name and timestamp, use ~~~~ (4 tildes).

I understand your sentiment, but it is misplaced here. There are millions of images of Jakarta that show its negative side. What are you going to do about those? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and the objective here is to present . You may want to start by reading the welcome page and the following two pages: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and be bold in editing pages. Julius.kusuma 01:51, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Is it Bantargebang? If yes, actually Bantargebang is located in Bekasi not Jakarta.Aditthegrat 01:44, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Uh... I live here in Jakarta too, and I have to say that this city isn't really that beautiful... ^^;; But I love Jakarta, I really do, it's just that what Julius.Kusuma said is true: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and we have to lay things how it is. Now, maybe it is a good idea to have people know the negative side of Jakarta (poverty, mountains of garbage and all) and the side which Jakarta-lover up there talked about. Anyway.... did I missed it or there's no section about the demographic and social life? I founD it interesting, just too bad I don't have enough facts, and I'm no expert. 202.73.122.227 22:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Metro Area

Why is the population of the Jakarta metroplitan area not listed as with other major cities on Wikipedia? It seems the 2004 population figure is only for the physical province of Jakarta (DKI Jakarta). The provincial area of 660km2 became saturated in the early 1990s and the population of this area is no longer growing, whereas the surrounding urban area has exploded in terms of population growth. There is not even mention on the page of Jabodetabek, and attempts to rectify this have been met with revision reverts.

[edit] Senator Barack Obama, D-Illinois

The senator grew up in Jakarta, ages 2 - 10.

[edit] Twin Towns

New South Wales, Australia is not a city. Its a state. Avalon 13:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

.... and I don't know which city in NSW is the twin to Djakarta. Avalon 13:41, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

The relationship is with the state New South Wales, not a specific city. MichaelJLowe 07:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] three in one rule

Is the three in one rule equivalent to HOV in the states? If so it might be better to say "requiring passengers" A google search didn't bring up any relevant information. Not An IP 17:03, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motorbike new rule

wow when i look in this suara pembaruan this day 29 november 2006, I look this new rule like a very stupid rule. When many country try save and conserve energy indonesia do oposite about that. and this do when our country have problem with electricity. i would like to see how this would burden more to pln when they recharge the accu.Daimond 12:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More history

Has essentially nothing happened in Jakarta since the early 1600s? That's the impression this article gives. For starters, here's a Dutch article that fills in some of the gaps, if someone is able to translate it. Biruitorul 23:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)