Talk:Jaguar XK
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It's commmon for high performance cars to be limited to 155mph, however the XK8's top speed is actually 156mph, unlimited. I have a link, but it won't wiki cos of the @ symbols:
Although the Jaguar is not as expensive as some hypercars such as the Aston Martin DB7, it does not have to quality and prestige of an Aston. It falls between classes really, being neither a sports car nor a GT. Sales vary sharply across markets too. Here in London it's a common alternative to the ubiquitous Porsche 911, but in other markets it has struggled. akaDruid 10:09, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC) (edit akaDruid 10:14, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC))
- I'm not ignoring this, however I'm looking for some more information. The 156 mph I believe only applies to model year 1997 which had an inferior EGR system and electronic control module... I'll get back to you. --Hcheney 02:07, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
About the XK8 being a car which isn't luxurious can be said of the XK8 but it's not valid when the brand Jaguar is the centre of discussion. [Haniff - Malaysia]
[edit] Third opinion re: XK8Forum link
Hello. I'm posting in response to a request on the Third Opinion page for a neutral viewpoint regarding the appropriateness of the link to the XK8Forum site from this article. I have not edited this article (or any Jaguar-related articles, for that matter), and have no acquaintance with either of the editors involved in the dispute.
The Wikipedia:Manual of Style states that links to foreign-language sites (in this case, non-English sites) should not be used except in limited situations. The XK8Forum link does not appear to meet any of these situations. Therefore, it appears to be inappropriate for the English-language Wikipedia, and I would suggest that it be removed.
It would be wonderful if a French translation of this article could be written in the French version of Wikipedia; the XK8Forum link would then appear to be highly appropriate for that version. Kickaha Ota 22:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Other forum links
In addition to the French forum link removal above, I feel that all forums links should be removed (as I tried with this edit [2]), since per WP:EL forums should generally not be linked to. However I've already edit warred far more than I like here already, so I leave this decision to other future editors --AbsolutDan (talk) 22:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
As an XK owner and lover, I feel that these three forums bring huge value to any person wanting to get deeper infos on these cars. Having two english one and one French one is not contradictory to the terms of the Wikipedia rules. French is a language spoken by many people, and many French speaking people look for infos primarily on english forums but are then happy to find also some links in tehir native language. Also, the French forum is teh second most active one after the us forum. Theyse forums are a useful addenda.
If you look at the history of modifications, you'll see that AbsolutDan is just French bashing. He lied to me after I identified him, triyng to say he was French, and afterwards he tries to manipulate by generating a pseudo "third opinion". He is only destroying value and doing nothing positige. Censorship is fun only to people who have nothing else to say. Sad. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.80.247.61 (talk • contribs) .
- This is not about any personality conflict; this is about whether a particular piece of information is or is not appropriate for Wikipedia, according to Wikipedia's policies. Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) are very clear; barring unusual circumstances which have not been met here, foreign-language sites should not be linked. The XK8Forum link violates these policies.
- Your comments about AbsolutDan and myself violate Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. This dispute is about Wikipedia policy, not about the users involved. Your comments are highly inappropriate. Kickaha Ota 12:35, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Your brutal way of acting and your ruddeness is also against the WP, sorry to be positive about that. Callin me "Buddy" is not nice either. And I do not agree with you on the fact that this finformation is not adequate. Once again, read again the WP: Links to forums, even in foregign language can be allowed if they are useful. As a XK-owner and lover, and as a modest contributor to this page (Silverstone corrections), I estimate that I'm in a better position than you to judge about the relevance of a site. you do say you want to help the WP be better respected, than please analyse first your own attitude and perfect it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.80.247.61 (talk • contribs) .
- Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) once again. "Webpages in English are highly preferred." Non-English pages are only used "when linking to pages with maps, diagrams, photos, tables"; in other words, when linking to content that even a non-speaker of the language can understand. There is no such need for a link to the non-English forum in this case. I have never called you "Buddy", nor have I said that the information is "not adequate"; I have simply said that it's not appropriate for a link from the English-language Wikipedia. If you wish to assist French speakers, let me once again suggest that you translate this article into French, place it on the French Wikipedia, and link to the French-language forum from there. You have now been warned twice for making personal attacks. Kickaha Ota 15:00, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
My dear friend, this is becoming too stupid a game, and I'm going to give you what you wanted. I announce herewith the end of my contributions to this page.
I removed all my add-ons and hope you'll be happy with that.
If not, feel free to do whatever you want I do no more care, after all my life is luckily not bound to what happens to the XK wikipedia pages.
Adieu, Messieurs les censeurs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.80.247.61 (talk • contribs) .
- I sincerely apologize for my inadvertent violation of WP:3RR. I am self-reporting.Kickaha Ota 16:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
