Talk:Jacques Vallée

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[edit] Needed correction

This article needs changing to Jacques Vallée, with the accent mark.

Regarding this bit: "As an alternative to the extraterrestrial visitation hypothesis, Vallee has suggested other theories, including the interdimensional hypothesis. This hypothesis represents an extension of the ETH where the "Extraterrestrials" could be potentially from anywhere. The entities could be multidimensional beyond space-time, thus could coexist with humans, yet remain undetected." I don't think you can in all fairness attribute this 'Interdimensional Hypothesis' to Jacques Valee because it doesn't say, I don't think, what he has said. I think this term 'Interdimensional Hypothesis' is someone else's viewpoint. This is just a suggestion for semantic's sake :)

The name is routinely listed in English-language articles as Vallee. If the name is changed to Vallée it will have a different code (a % sign followed by a hex number) and almost no one will be able to find it.

RickReinckens 05:11, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I concur that it's alright what you call him. But you might want to reword the part of the article about the interdimensional hypothesis. I don't think he ever mentions that; he is a very rigorous thinker and is very careful with his theories. I think that the 'interdimensional hypothesis' is more accurately described as an interpretation by other people of his ideas (you might want to fact check and see where the first instance of this being used came from). Good researching m'dear -:)

[edit] Vallee's interpretation of the UFO evidence

I would like to add some comments regarding Vallee's interpretation of the UFO evidence. First of all, a few quotes from Vallee's books will serve to clarify his position on the phenomenon:

"The central question in the analysis of the UFO phenomenom has always been that of the controlling intelligence behind the objects' apparently purposeful behavior. For the time being, let me simply state again that the modern, globel belief in flying saucers and their occupants is identical to an earlier belief in the Good People. The entities described as the pilots of the craft are indistinguishable from the elves, sylphs, and lutins of the Middle Ages." Vallee, J. 1988, Dimensions, pp. 81-82.

"Superficially, the most appealing of the theories proposed is the extraterristrial theory which would regard the UFOs as probes from another planet. Yet it falls short of explaining the phenomenon in their historical development. Present day saucers cannot be evaluated without reference to the 1987 airship or to earlier sighting of similar objects. Then, too, the theory of simple visitation must be compared with the assumption that the visitors know far more physics than we do - so much more, in fact, that an interpretation in terms of physical concepts known to us is bound to end in failure and contradiction. A second major flaw in the theories proposed so far is found in the description of the entities and their behavior. As we will see below, any theory can account for some of the reports, but only at the expense of arbitrary rejection of a much larger group."

"To put it bluntly, the UFO phenomenon does not give evidence of being extraterrestrial at all. Instead it appears to be inter-dimensional and to manipulate physical realities outside of our own space-time continuum." Ibid., p. 136.

"I believe that a UFO is both a physical entity with mass, inertia, volume, and physical parameters that we can measure, and a window into another reality. Ibid., p. 224.

"Instead I believe that the UFO phenomenon represents evidence for other dimensions beyond spacetime; the UFOs may not come from ordinary space, but from a multiverse which is all around us, and of which we have stubbornly refused to consider the disturbing reality in spite of the evidence available to us for centuries. Such a theory is required in order to explain both the modern cases and the chronicles of Magonia - the abductions and the psychic component."

"I believe there is a system that transcends time as it transcends space. Other researchers have reached the same conclusion. Some have come away deeply discouraged by the realization best summed up early in this century by Charles Fort, the author of The Book of the Damned: "We are property" Scholars of this phenomenon, like Father Salvatore Freixedo in Latin America, John Keel in the United States, and Aime Michel in France, feel that we may be powerless before the complex and absurd capabilities of an alien intelligence that can masquerade as a Martian invader, as a primitive god, as the Blessed Virgin, as a fleet of airships. While I acknowledge their observations I remain confident that human knowledge is capable of eventually understanding the larger reality that the phenomenon represents. We should go on studying it - case after bizarre case, pattern after strange pattern." Ibid., p. 284.

Bivariate-correlator 12:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)