User talk:Ivan.chollet@lynanda.com

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Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. The links you added to the page Stickies have been removed. Please do not add commercial links—or links to your own private websites—to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links. See the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. -- Scientizzle 16:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Notability (software)

Check out this page for general notability guidelines for software. I added the reference about Google hits toTalk:PtiMemo just as a quick note, meaning that the subject is not inherently notable and, as such, the article should endeavor to make clear why and how the subject is, in fact, notable. There's no raw number of Google hits that automatically makes a subject notable or non-notable (see here), but it's commonly used as a contextual gauge in keep-or-delete arguments. (More general information on notability can be found at WP:NOTABILITY.) All notability claims need to be verifiable and from reliable sources.

As I noted in the prod tag, PtiMemo reads like an advertisement. Wikipedia is not meant to be free ad space for companies or products. If you combine the apparent lack of notability with the general linkspam look of the article, PtiMemo may get deleted pretty soon...unless you can adress these concerns.

I hope this helps! -- Scientizzle 22:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


Of course it helped ! Though I'm wondering why lack of notability should be a problem to post on an "Encyclopedia". (I mean, Wikipedia is becoming a mean for Microsoft, Sun or IBM to advertise freely!). Actually this article is probably more informative than many others, regarding to the technology used, etc. Seems like there is something like a bias with Wikipedia... Please don't get me wrong : I'm not criticizing, just trying to provide you with constructive feedback. I already had corrected a few math articles on Wikipedia in the past and I still see some lack of objectivity in the information provided. Many scientifical articles on Wikipedia are of questionnable quality (and contradictory with related articles in Encyclopediae Universalis, for instance), so I was wondering whether the method used was perfectible or not. I don't have any clear solution though. Ivan.chollet@lynanda.com 23:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Glad I could help. I agree that the notability guidelines are imperfect. You should contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (software). I'm of the opinion that an encylopedia should cover only subjects that are already notable and that notability guidelines are, in general, a "good thing." The trouble is drawing the big gray line between notable and non-notable. Microsoft is quite notable and deservedly gets covered, but you're right that there's too much advertising by the "notable" companies. Happy editing! -- Scientizzle 00:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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