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[edit] From Votes for deletion

• Isoroku Yamamoto's sleeping giant quote - somewhat unverifiable analysis, this is interesting research into the veracity of the quote, but it seems to be more appropriate as the beginning of a snopes.com piece rather than a Wikipedia article. Daniel Quinlan 09:47, Aug 3, 2003 (UTC)
  • It's at least as valid as the Bill Gates "Open letter to hobbyists" article. Keep. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick 16:37, Aug 9, 2003 (UTC)
  • Well, I agree that the subject matter is on the borderline - at best - for an encyclopaedia. It turns out it's not suitable for snopes.com, because it falls outside their definition of an urban legend (which includes multiple variants). If we can find a site which will take the content, and which is not likely to disappear (so much web content is *not* permanent - Snopes itself might easily go away if the maintainers - a couple - can't continue, and nobody is around to pick up from them) then yeah, we can lose it. Until then, it has real content (some of which would be very hard for the average person to find out on their own), people use it (I did!), and it's "mostly harmless". -- Noel 15:13, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
    • I needed it — Please keep, TORA! TORA! TORA!'s directors need Wikipedia entries also. - Sparky 12:01, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)
    • Found this article useful. Citing some sources would be great, but this is far from the sort of thing Wikipedia needs to worry about cleaning out - just cleaning up.

[edit] Napoleon

If Yamamoto did indeed say it, he might have been paraphrasing Napoleon, who said something very similar about China. I typed napoleon china sleeping giant into Google and got over 5000 hits.

Are you serious? I typed alien napoleon INSTANT DEATH RAY into google and got 311,000 results. Hardly a reliable source to find out if anyone said something. Liquidtenmillion 23:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

It seems like he had a point though; just taking the first quote, it seems Napoleon said "China is a sleeping giant. Let her lie and sleep, for when she awakens she will astonish the world." Similar enough, eh?