Talk:Islam in Malaysia
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I edited the language and readability, plus added some facts althouth it is still up to many more furnishment for higher encyclopedic standard. Ongengwai 06:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
So why is preaching Christianity to Malays not tolerated? Shouldn't all individuals have open access to learn which faith they wish to investigate further, rather than being tied in my constitutional and familia constraints??? Retcon
View points should not be included into an article attempted to be encyclopedic, regardless if you agree or disagree with the coming of facts. Ongengwai 02:34, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Culture section
While Malaysian culture is not my area of expertise, could someone more knowledgeable possibly add to or edit the cultural impact section so that fully half of it is not comprised of information solely on women's dress? --Liquesce 20:31, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Failed Good Article Status
This article was rejected for good article status because it is poorly written. Sentences in the first paragraph epitomize the choppy nature of the sentence structure and much of information presented in the article relates to Islam in general rather than Islam in Malaysia. joturner 01:43, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MyKad
Please see my comments in the talk for MyKad. Specifically, is it true detailed religion info is included? I was under the impression this was planned, possibly even before MyKad but was abandoned and instead it is simply printed if you are a Muslim (I guess it's on the chip as well). If I'm correct, non-muslim is not printed but it's a given since it's an either/or. Nil Einne 18:39, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Apostasy from Islam in Malaysia
The first paragraph
- In recent years this topic has started to create a debate within Malay society and politics. The most documented case was that of the Sky Kingdom which was seen as the litmus test for religious freedom.
Can anyone actually get a quote for the above? I would hardly call it a litmus test. While I personally believe Sky Kingdom should have been left alone, they appeared to be harmless enough even if extremely bizzarre. However the way cults & sects are treated in many countries is often different from the treatment of religions considered more normal probably even more so in countries with uneasy religious issues. If anything, the Muslims converting to Christianty issue would be a far better litmus test IMHO.
Also for the later info on converts
- Original source of this information in Malay [1]
The soruce is the Harakah (PAS paper). As such I would say it's info should be treated with care and at least a warning given... Nil Einne 19:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing the merits the deletion of this chapter. It is valid info and should remain. The Sky kingdom quote wull be added.
[edit] Issues missing
There are some issues missing or not covered in sufficient depth IMHO such as:
- Malay bible
- Preaching to a Muslim
- Marriages between a Muslim male and a non-Muslim female and the corresponding effects on divorce
- Islamic education (Pendidikan Islam) in schools
- Orang Asli? (I'm not sure if this should be mentioned or not, the fact that Orang Asli in the Peninsular are not considered Bumiputra surely has something to do with the fact that they're not Muslim though?)
And probably numerous other things I forgot. The short-lived ban of the Iban bible should also be mentioend (it's already mentioned in the Iban article). Some of these may best be covered in other articles but better links provided. Nil Einne 19:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bumiputra 'conversion
- However the reverse is not legally true; one does not legally become a Bumiputra by converting to Islam
While this is true, it is explained later that evidently you can become a Bumiputra (or specifically a Malay) if you live like like a Malay (which includes coversion of course) so I think we need to clarify the introduction Nil Einne 19:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Copy edit performed
I rewrote the introduction and rearranged some of the material so the sections would cover specific topics. It seems like some sections need to be filled out, for example, the History section. I think the structure of the article needs to be clearer. I put Apostasy under Islam forms because I could not see another place to put it and it could not be a top header on its own.
I found and removed several broken links.
The whole article need good references. See the following Wikipedia policies:
KarenAnn 17:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
