Talk:Iron law of oligarchy

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[edit] what creats the iron law of oligasrchy according to R. Michels?

Good question. Bureaucratization and specialization mainly, which creates a specialized group of administrators in a hierarchical structure. This leads to The routinization of authority and decision making...basically the sorts of the things Max Weber delt with. And to a lesser and more cynical extent, the Peter principle. Hey...there's something we can add to the article! Thank you, unknown stranger:>--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 06:22, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] National Socialist example in 1915 book?

Am I missing something, or is there something funny when the article says that an "example that Michels used in his book was Germany's National Socialist Party."? The only book mentioned is his 1915 "Political Parties", which would predate the Nazi party (assuming this is what is meant; the link is to a disambiguation page). Is the reference really meant to be to the Social Democratic Party of Germany, which Michel's entry indicates he was a member of until 1907? It looks like this was introduced in this diff. - David Oberst 04:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

My mistake, you are right.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio problems?

Also, there may be some copyright issues - chunks of the text are directly taken from this website. It is listed in the References section, but given the substantial usage should there not be more explicit notice? Also, the author asserts copyright, and I don't know if his release would be compatible with Wikipedia's GFDL? - David Oberst 04:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

There are inline citations in text, and it has been somewhat reworded. But perhaps we can put some remaining sentences in quotation marks?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)