Talk:Ingrid Bergman

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Contents 1 Gay Icon Project 2 Images 3 Good edit 4 Date of death 5 Image deletion 6 Fugitive in Vienna

[edit] Gay Icon Project

In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:11, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I like the addition of the Casablanca image but I wonder if we really need the shot of her at 14 anymore. 23skidoo 01:22, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't like that image either; it's not very representative of how most people think of her. The Singing Badger 02:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

It's a nice picture; leave it in. On a more serious note, I think those responsible for this article should read her autobiography. There are a lot of errors and slurs here. Sune Slips

Actually, I have. At least 3 times. Could you be specific as to the "errors and slurs"? I did note an uncited comment about her last husband which I deleted, and there was unnecessary bolding in the paragraph about her becoming a pariah in the US re:Rossellini. If there are errors, please be bold and correct them. 23skidoo 02:48, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

It seems to be a suitable early life picture. It would be nice if we could include a photo from around the time of Cactus Flower as well to show the longevity of her career. PhantomS 08:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good edit

I'm glad to see the unsourced claim that she committed suicide removed from the article. If anyone puts it back, it had better be with a rock solid source. 23skidoo 22:26, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Date of death

The death certificate seems fairly conclusive about 30 August. I wonder why all the sources we quote say she died on 29 August. Even the "official Ingrid Bergman" website seems to have it wrong. Maybe this was the date in the US when her death was reported, and the date was misreported at the time and the misinformation has stuck ever since. Any other theories? JackofOz 11:28, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I've always heard 29 August, myself. It's possible the 30 August date was a clerical error (that has happened before). Alternately it's possible the date on the certificate is the date on which the certificate was filed. Perhaps Ingrid died on the 29th but this wasn't discovered until the 30th? Didn't she die in her sleep? 23skidoo 14:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

One web site says that she died in her sleep at the end of her 67th birthday, 29th of August 1982. Probably the death certificate was filed on the 30th.

--Gabi S. 10:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

She died at the end of August 29th during the night. The day before, on the 28th, the cancer had advanced to her spine and collapsed her twelth verterbra, causing her to be on diamorphine and to be bedridden. On the 29th, it was discovered by the doctor that her right lung had collapsed and that only an upper third of the left was still working; therefore, it was known that she wouldn't be lasting much longer. In addition, at this point, she was going in and out of consciousness and her breathing was labored. At 3:30 a.m. on the 30th, her cousin Britt, who was sleeping in the next room, woke up and decided to check on Ingrid after not hearing her breathing. At that time, she was discovered to be dead.

--PhantomS 00:27, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

A similar confusion over the exact date of death occurred with a friend of mine, Johnny Grande, who likewise passed away overnight, leading to two different dates of death being reported in the media. 23skidoo 04:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image deletion

I reverted the deletion of the Notorious image on the grounds that it does fall into fair use because it illustrates Bergman's work and the article itself serves as a description of one of the film's "contents" - namely the actress. If the issue is that there's no discussion of Notorious, then someone can easily add it. There is overwhelming precident for the use of such images on Wikipedia -- including, I may add, the Casablanca image at the top of this article. 23skidoo 15:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fugitive in Vienna

I saw this movie listed in the film lists included with her Miami Herald and Washington Post obituaries. Furthermore, the Washington Post also included Simulantia as a separate entry. However, Fugitive in Vienna is nowhere to be found in IMDB. Does anyone have any information on this? --PhantomS 10:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)