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Updated 8 Oct 2006.
- Read and understand the GA review - Partially undertaken - major improvements made to article in line with GA review - but more needed
Select important information from each of the "History" sub-subheadings. - Complete major revamp of History section undertaken. More significant and contextual info, far less words. Sub-headings deemed inappropriate for now smaller amount of textMake a new sub-subheading under History about the empires before the 18th century. Complete Significant new info on pre-18th century added. See above point re sub-headings.
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[edit] Archiving page 6 and 7
Please note that Archive 7 contains extensive downloaded material relevant to the next section. Archive 6 and 7 were created as the size warning was showing in the edit page format. SatuSuro 09:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Re items to be found in Archive 7 - above
- John Smith, I know you want to have a honest article with credible sources, and so do I. I read about John Pilger's book and other credible sources about my country, Indonesia, esp. as I'm living not in Indonesia. However, I would like to stress about contents of this article. If we put everything about Indonesia, then we will have a very long article. This Indonesia article follows other country's article, where it summarizes long story about history, because there are other necessary information regarding geography, demography, economy, politics, etc. If you want to include the above information that you wrote, then please find an appropriate place: a specific period of the History of Indonesia or other specific articles about Indonesia. The bottom line is that we would like to mantain a proper length of an article, as a summary about a country. — Indon (reply) — 08:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. BUT I am not trying to stop the information. I would like to see John Smith put some of this info (appropriately) into the other articles. Let's give him a few days, then we can archive this page.--Merbabu 08:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- I can only concur, since I've already agreed that the indepth information belongs in the history of Indonesia. But I still felt that it should be mentioned in the shorter summary in the main page to let people know enough about this serious event in Indonesian history to want to know more, and also let them know that people disagree, and that it needs investigating.Merbabu has gone a long way to remedy this request,and I agree with him and feel we've gotten a good compromise between length and information on the issue. Some of the better pages on the subject are now already (recently?)added in the footnotes, quoted from the page at www.globalresearch.ca
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ROO20051105&articleId=1187
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- and as I've stated for a few days now: from now on I will try to contribute to the History of Indonesia page, to make it as correct as possible in regards to credible and valid sources, range of sources, and fairness towards the subject matter. I'd like to thank you both, and especially Merbabu for understanding, even though I was getting somewhat heated in my form and style,trying to debate this.
- Sincerely. John Smith -213.172.204.59 10:12, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
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- One thing you could do is to send messages from the one ID - red linked numbers and then other names - can get you into some difficulty. Try to think - you are not the only person who has ever had these thoughts about Indonesia - beware if you think you can make something 'as correct as possible' - and even more so - if you get heated - take time out - it will be worth it - as everything put on wikipedia stays there - for everyone to see! Best of luck! SatuSuro 10:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry about that, but it was an honest mistake, I lost my internet connection and forgot to log in to my wiki account again and just started responding since I was ancious to explain my view and stand on the issue. Also, I am behind a firewall in a network wich gives me and at least five other users the appeareance of having the same IP-adress. I'm no sysadmin in this wireless network but there it is. What is the significance of my IP numbers above having the coulor red?
And again, I have yet to find anyone who can actually _refute_ the claims, the sources, the documentaries or have tried discrediting the BBC documentary, nor the John Pilger one, or Woodwards book on the CIA, or the south-east asian human rights and their sources or investigation, so I'm really at a loss here. help me out.John Smith (nom de guerre) 13:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Viz the point at the very top of this talk page - this is nothing to do with the article - I will copy your comment to your user talk page to try to explain/answer SatuSuro 13:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
