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Contents 1 Arabs in the bible 2 user:Kitrus 3 Biography Newsletter September 2006 4 Help tag 5 عادي... 6 Arab-Canadians 7 stop attacking my page 8 Thanks Inahet 9 Ramadan Karim 10 Salam 11 Thank you 12 Eid Mubarak 13 3RR WARNING 14 Foreign-language sources

[edit] Arabs in the bible

Hello there, Inahet. Some time ago I was told to consult with you on my wish to remove the passage entitled "In biblical tradition" from the article Arab, after my first attempt in doing so was reverted. I have already written down my argument for this in the talk page: the claims in this section are completely and utterly unfounded. The bible makes no reference for Ishmaelites being the same as Arabs- Ishmaelites and Arabs are both mentioned in the bible seperatly, with no indication of them being one in the same. The tradition of identifing the two together is a much later one. I have also no idea where does the claim that Madan and Median were forefathers of the Arabs, but it's definitely not in the bible. And regardless of any of these, this passage is foung in the section of "Definition of Arab" and its certinly not a definition. What do you say, do I have your support? Harvest day fool 12:40, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] user:Kitrus

Hi Inahet-

I was wondering if you'd be interested in helping me edit Rules of Engagement (film), a film that portrays Yemeni people in a negative light. I don't have time to constantly revert the changes on the page made by User:Deathbunny, who insists, using racist rhetoric, that the movie is not racist in the Talk Page of the article. Thanks.--Kitrus 05:24, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I would like to know how what I have written could be concieved as racist. I have tried to both stay on topic and talk about only what is in the movie and what is realistic without attributing any negative traits by either race or nationality that does not exist in either real life or, in discussions of the movie exclusively, in real life. I have also not characterized any behaviors or traits in a judgemental way or by implying any behavior as "good" or "bad". I have only characterized behaviors as "possible", "probable", or "realistic" based on real world events from sources I expect to be valid. I concur that many people view "Rules of Engagement" is racist based on the portral of fictitions Yemenis in the movie, but it still doesn't change the other facts I cited about the movie. If you check the edits I have made, you will find no denial or alteration of the commonly held assertion that the movie may be racist, I have offered no apology for it, and I have not challenged the fact that many people may be offended by it.

I have only sought to add factual information to the article without changing the character of the article. I would thank you for your insight on what, beyond disagreeing with Kitrus on what counts as factual information, I have written that would or should be considered racist. Deathbunny 03:08, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biography Newsletter September 2006

The September 2006 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 00:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help tag

I uploaded an image to Wikimedia commons [1], how could I use this image here at Wikipedia?

If there is no image of that name on the local wikipedia site (which for en wikipedia there isn't) then just refer to it as if it is a local image. If you look to the page Image:Award1.JPG you'll see it appear, just marked as being sourced from commons. --pgk 19:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi! It's actually the same procedure. Just type [[Image:Award1.JPG|150px]] where you want the picture to go. "150px" is the size of the image display; this can be changed. If you want to use it like a barnstar, then 100px is probably a good size. Let me know if you need any further help! -- Merope ^Talk/_Review 19:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you both for the really quick help. Silly me, I didn't type the letters JPG in upper case, that's why the image didn't show up earlier when I was testing it. I always forget that it is case sensitive. Also, I'll try the size you recommended, thanks for that suggestion too! --Inahet 20:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] عادي...

I seem to have got his goat all right, though in this case he's perhaps just retaliating for my remarks on the Palestine noticeboard! I suppose Wikipedia will eventually collapse under the weight of the likes of him... Palmiro | Talk 13:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't see the use for him to post such complaints on the Israeli noticeboard, he would have gotten the same or even better response on the admin noticeboard if you know what I mean *wink* *wink*.

Palestinian-related articles are dominated by pro-Israeli POV pushers (not naming names) and very few people are interested in writing neutral articles, so we need as much help as we can get. Also, I see too many Arab Wikipedians leaving in frustration over the biases and stubbornness by certain users (including many administrators). Unless the reason for your inactivity is that you're busy, I urge you to become more involved since you're very knowledgeable in Palestinian issues. Shukran. --Inahet 22:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Considering how bad most of the coverage is, I'm increasingly inclined to think that we shouldn't seek to influence it at all; any efforts to dilute the bias or to improve articles outside the firing range of the POV pushers in question may only, in the end, add to the credibility of the propagandistic elements whereas if we leave it all alone, the result will be so utterly biased (not to mention inaccurate) that less people will be likely to be led astray by it. That, and the frustration of seeing any improvements that do get made being consistently undone, are my two main reasons for being inactive. Lesser reasons include the unpleasantness of dealing with some of the people in question and the fact that, yes, I am fairly busy and for my own sake there are probably about 30 more useful and in all likelihood more enjoyable things I could be doing with my time any time I log on to Wikipedia. However, it also has a sort of morbid attraction... Palmiro | Talk 18:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I absolutely agree but I still think that it is still worth giving the effort especially since Wikipedia is the "second-most visited reference site on the Web".[2]. Just do a simple web search on any subject (e.g.[3][4][5]) and you will see that Wikipedia is among the top links. To be able to influence a source with so much exposure, thus influencing a great number of people, is an opportunity to not pass up. But if you feel that it is not worth your while, I can understand although when a pro-Palestinian Wikipedian stops contributing, it is disheartening for Wikipedians who fight biases in Palestinian-related articles :(. Inahet 19:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I had to leave for a while because of the complaints Palmiro expressed as well. Israeli POV pushers are relentless, and I suspect some receive monetary compensation for their "contributions". After battling it out in the Operation Summer Rain article, constantly having descriptions of Palestinian civilian casualties removed and replaced by distorted accounts from the Jerusalem Post or some other such right-wing Israeli newspaper, I gave up for a while. I will be checking again from time to time though, so feel free to call for collaboration. Tiamut 12:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Marhaba Inahet! Ah, ana filisteniyyi wa 'aishi bi Nasri maa jozi. I will do my best to keep up editing. By the way, have you seen the new Wikiproject:Israel? I have tried to join twice to be a part of the decision-making process there since they claim to want to produce "balanced" and "fair" related Israel. So far, they have tried to disqualify me from joining by making up new membership rules right after I joined and deleting my name. Anyway, it seems to be a way for them to control content in articles related to Israel. Check it out, and thanks for your encouragement. Ma'a salaam. 82.102.241.6 18:19, 1 October 2006 (UTC) By the way, it's me Tiamut writing. Somehow I got logged out before posting. Afwan. Tiamut 18:27, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me to Palestine notice board and your comments on the discussion about my membership to the Israel Wikiproject. So far, they have not removed my name again. But I will ask for other editors' help if they attempt to do so again. Kol sinni wa inta salem! Tiamut 08:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey! I added an email address to my preferences. So send away! Tiamut 09:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arab-Canadians

Category:Arab Canadian Wikipedians is the article i was tryhing to categorize myself under. :) Raccoon Fox • Talk • Stalk 19:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stop attacking my page

Ian pitchford is a regular war editor and made some vandals which I commented on. Your post had no interest to me, and it was no official warning, and I have every right to delete it. Stop disrupting wikipedia. Amoruso 17:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Since you continue to remove my messages from your talk page, calling the first "false allegations" and then the second "BS" I guess I will have to post it here so others can decide who is "disrupting wikipedia":

Ater taking a look a look at your recent edit history, I noticed you have a habit of mislabeling legitimate edits as vandalism [6] [7] [8][9]. In fact from September 29, all the edits with "rvv" in the edit summary were reverts of good faith edits.There is a difference between content diputes and vandalism. As according to the WP policy on vandalism, vandalism "is any addition, deletion, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia", it could range from deliberately changing a date to confuse readers to blanking the entire article. Removing content which is disputed is not vandalism. So please refrain from improperly labeling edits as vandalism, it is incivil behavior. Thank you. --Inahet 17:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

--Inahet 18:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Since my comments on your talk page is erased and labeled "BS" I guess it is only fair to remove your comments from my talk page. Also that message I gave Palmiro was on 9/22. I made him aware of the incitement you had made against him on the Israeli noticeboard, your comment:

user:Palmiro seems intent to blank out any material he doesn't like even when compltely sourced, reliable and verfiable, simply because he doesn't like it, on false pretexts such as "well poisoning".

I'm not letting your backtalk go unchecked! --Inahet 19:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks Inahet

Thanks for helping me clear up things with my status. I was pretty sure he was being a pain for my nailing him, I just didn't want to basically do the same thing he'd done (deleting warnings that were genuine on his talk). Hope I can repay the favor in the future. Coyote42 07:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for noticing the missing photo on the Jisr Al-Zarqa page and offering to help out. I couldn't figure out how to include the photo even after reading all the explanatory pages (I am not that tech savvy it seems). Anyway, the link is http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article4816.shtml, and it's the first photo at the top of the page. You can see why I want to include it. It provides an important visual of what the barrier looks like. Thanks again. Tiamut 09:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow! That was a very thorough explanation and all your help on the matter deserves some recognition. So I am awarding you the

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		for selflessly helping others improve new articles and understand Wiki policies

Tiamut 20:47, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

A fellow Wikipedian is being Wikistalked. What do I advise her/him to do ? --Inahet 18:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Tell them to report it to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. --  Netsnipe  ►  19:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Netsnipe --Inahet 20:41, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ramadan Karim

Ramadan karim! Jidan 03:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Salam

Nice contributions. Ramadan Kareem--Thameen 14:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your time and suggestion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts. [10] Much appreciated. Mark83 12:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome Mark! I'm glad to be of any help. --Inahet 19:41, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eid Mubarak

Wow...time goes fast! BTW, this is the "official" yemeni song for Eid (song by Ali Al-Ansi): http://www.gr8.cc/2/eid11.ram. If you don't know it, you are not yemeni! :-)))) Jidan 00:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Eid is monday!! About the song, the quality is bad I know, but let your parents translate it for u. This song in Eid has a status in yemen as "jingle bells" in christmas!! Jidan 01:00, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR WARNING

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert a single page more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.81.20.149 (talk • contribs) 20:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Foreign-language sources

The rules for foreign-language sources are set out in WP:REF.

Because this is the English Wikipedia, English-language sources should be given whenever possible, and should always be used in preference to other language sources of equal calibre. However, do give references in other languages where appropriate. If quoting from a different language source, an English translation should be given with the original-language quote beside it.

In other words, foreign-language sources are okay, but other things being equal, English-language sources are to be preferred. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 20:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)