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[edit] About definite and indefinite article.

Hi, thanks for your note. I have to mention, though, that I believe you're setting up a false argument based on an importance that isn't there.

We're talking about the mere rendering of titles in an alphabetical list. Convention (which, frankly, has gone to hell recently) dictates that a lead article (and, I must have been tired last night to use "preposition") be relegated to follow-up duty in favor of the noun, verb, adjective, etc., immediately following.

The reason, if memory serves, is simple: over the years, so many songs (and other titles) begin with "The" that to peruse a list of them would be a huge challenge. That's it; whether an article is definite or indefinite is really irrelevant.

Write with any comments. :) RadioKirk talk to me 18:02, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit: I should note that I'm in agreement when it comes to preserving an artist's integrity, when demonstrable. To a lead article, however, I believe you ascribe importance via a generalization that could arguably dilute an individual's preferences when applied to the whole. RadioKirk talk to me 20:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Despite the excuse I have just made on the rock instrumentals' page, I decided to give you a brief answer right now. I appreciate your struggle in avoiding "sentimentalism" towards small passable things like the leading articles I appear so strongly attached to. Maybe my earlier post (while not a whole day has passed since then) is a little too long and that is because I wanted to justify my point of view by limpid arguments. Not knowing which one you would feel resonant with, I've written them all down.

I was a little thwarted when I've read your comment. Skipping the leading article just because it has a lot of instances in music is not a criterion for songs, but for bands' names. That is why I insisted so much about it last time. A leading definite article has been habitually added for a decade or two (in the rock'n'roll era); eventually, bands started dropping it and a procedure like the one you told me about was needed. I'll stress this once again: it is steered in behalf of band names and not songs. The leading article is a much more specific matter when it comes to songs' titles. It is in so strong a degree that I am still bothering you with it at ten to two a.m. And this ain't sentimentalism. I am only trying to be as correct and precise as you yourself do. Now I'm tired!

P.S. I still haven't understood one thing in your note. Did you happen to say you would tolerate my edits, but without agreeing with my point of view? Impy4ever 22:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

In my 40-plus years on this rock (grin), I saw it used for songs long before I saw it used for bands; again, because so many songs began with "The" or "A" that it was deemed convention to tail with the article for purposes of alphabetization (and this was long before electronic databases became the norm). And, yes, essentially, we'll agree to disagree; I did not ever intend to revert you (except to realphabetize "The Message"). RadioKirk talk to me 23:07, 15 April 2006 (UTC)