User talk:Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x)

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Thanks. I am still trying to get my name changed from my previous name to this one, but I gave up and just created this user anyway. Maybe oneday those 200 or so edits will be attributed to me.--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 09:15, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Personal attack

Apology accepted. I think we can safely state that the film is ambitious and that Siddig's performance is memorable, but we probably need some good cites. I've seen both stated in many reviews. More importantly, we need to discuss the role of the "father-son" relationships. That seems to be the most striking and important metaphor of the film. --Viriditas 13:22, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

You seem to be involved in an interesting discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics. I would say it is serious enough that you could bother to make an accout, or use an existing one if you already have it. It helps people being more comfortable talking to somebody who has a better defined virtual personna than an ever-changing string of numbers (your ip address that is). Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 00:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Oleg, this is a "clever" logon. And its also not an IP addr, as a quick "dig -x 21.12.52.123" will quickly reveal. Reasons for this "clever anonymity"? I don't know, but Oleg s right, we like it better when we know who we're dealing with. linas 01:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Yes it is a madeup IP. Its just a name like any other in my mind (actually I was thinking about naming myself after a number), there is no malintent on my behalf. I have introduced myself on the participants page of WP:Project Mathematics. Sorry about the confusion.
Welcome to Wikipedia. There is no need to present a "real world" identity here, but in ongoing conversations we do like to know "who" we're talking to, a Wikipedia identity. Because your chosen user id looks very much like an IP, you may find that it regularly causes confusion about whether you are a transient anonymous IP. That problem is lessened by creating a user page, which you have done. You can also play with your signature according to your creativity. For example, mine includes a link to my talk page. To edit your signature, use the "my preferences" link at the top of the page when you are logged in, and look at the Nickname field. See Help:Preferences for more guidance. I would also recommend that you take advantage of the village pump (especially the help desk), to speed your journey up the learning curve. --KSmrqT 10:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the info.--B21.12.52.123 11:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Style remarks

  1. One should sign one's posts (see above). Not a real style remark, but close.
  2. One should write analytic number theory and not Analytic Number Theory (the color of the link says it all). Wikipedia uses lower case as much as possible for links, section headings, and a lot of other things.
  3. One should use an edit summary at all times.

Now, I am aware that one should not bug a newbie like that, but these things must be taught when one is young, to make sure they stick. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 08:14, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

PS See also the top of the page. The official welcome, if you did not get one so far. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 08:18, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks--B21.12.52.123 08:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Test--Hypergeometric2F1[a,b,c,x] 11:14, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] More style tips

Hi B21. It's again me, and again bugging you. But those are things which you need to learn sooner or later, and better earlier than later.

  1. Variables should be italic, so x rather than x.
  2. Links should not be uppercase unless at the beginning of sentence, so "see the exponential" instead of "see the Exponential".
  3. π and π instead of Pi and Pi
  4. One should not start a sentence with "e is applied"; start a sentence with a normal word.
  5. A formula on its own line should be :<math>x^2</math> and not *<math>x^2</math>
  6. You use way too much space between paragraphs; exactly one space is enough (if you put three empty lines, three empty lines will show in the article, this is not TeX or html).
  7. Big edits to important articles need to be done in stages, with consultation on talk page first.

I have more, but that's enough for now. :) Hope you can go back and fix things at e (mathematical constant). Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 21:35, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Jeez... rules rules rules lol...alright then, thx for the info. I'll tidy it up a little bit.--Hypergeometric2F1[a,b,c,x] 04:34, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
And don't forget, I have more. :)
But I think you understand. :) Its a matter of things looking nice. So, get some practice before you start a new wiki. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm going to focus on contributing; there are plenty of users here who just shuffle around words and correct typos all day, they can clean up if they want. I'll keep the points you made in mind though.--Hypergeometric2F1[a,b,c,x] 07:22, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Good. But keep in mind that people who shuffle words around don't do that because they are unable to work on better things, rather take time of their busy schedule to make sure the encyclopedia looks nice. So although your contributions don't need to be perfect, you should not try to be too sloppy either. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:40, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: my name

I must say that all you wrote in the ==My name== section is highly silly. You are not dealing with a bunch of idiots who have nothing to do all day than shuffle words around and delete your contributions. Get used to the project before making judgements. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Jonathan (I am guessing you are Jonathan Sondow), we really do have a bunch of bright people here, including PhD's, postdocs and math professors (at least one of which is as famous as you). Articles written here do have a certain "house style" of wording, section headings, layout, etc. and articles will get edited by others to conform to that house style; don't take such editing as an insult, or disrespect. WP also has some ambitious undergraduates who often have more dreams than abilities, and these people often make disasterously bad edits to articles. We mostly try to fight them off, or work with them based on ability. You miught find yourself dealing with some of these as well, and it is very easy to have a "bad experience" that way. This is a big "kitchen" with a lot of activity. I can only recommend that you "stick with it", identify editors whom you can trust, and view others with caution. linas 17:10, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
I wasnt really referring to you guys, I was referring to this guy who keeps needlessy changing words around for no good reason in my Syriana (the movie) article (look at the history of it its hilarious..this guys adds absolutely NOTHING). However what I said about just deleting stuff you don't want in there stands for you guys...basically what I'm saying is I'm though with arguing and discussing..I just dont have time for it. I'm getting my EDM (the math encyclopedia) from home in a couple of days and I will start adding a lot of stuff. I just want to contribute; and if you dont like it just delete it and I will let others do the arguing for me. I just care about the MATH thats all. If enough stuff of mine is gone (unlikely that will happen, math isnt exactly a controversy around here) I will just leave.--Hypergeometric2F1[a,b,c,x] 17:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
EDIT: Sondow?! I WISH I was Sondow...the guy is a genius. Hes probably a lot more mature and intelligent than me. I included some of his formulas (cus I like them so much) and some of my own (I'll admit it). I'm just a 21 year old independant math researcher. I dont have any beef with you guys all im saying is I just care about the MATH. Please keep that in mind if I make a style mistake or dont use proper wiki whatever. I'll try to keep in the format.--Hypergeometric2F1[a,b,c,x] 17:18, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
My comment is retracted as you changed the above section. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 00:02, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Hmm. Want to contribute, interested in content not arguments, frustrated with bad edits and deletions … Sounds like a very familiar story on Wikipedia. These are systemic issues here; each editor responds with what is personally comfortable. My frustration grew to the point that I stopped writing major contributions to articles, and now confine myself to minor edits (such as typos) and talk pages. However, my frustration was exacerbated by the fact that I was drawn to do a very good job on basic material, rather than fill in details on especially advanced questions. For social and technical reasons, the former is much harder than the latter to achieve within Wikipedia's system. It's a pity, because more readers will be affected by the quality of the basic stuff. Which leads to a caution: There is an inevitable tension here concerning audience and style. Specifically, read and take to heart the discussion at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (mathematics). If you start an article as if you were talking to a young niece rather than a fellow advanced mathematics student, you will serve the purposes of the encyclopedia better; but be aware that not all editors appreciate that or know how to do it. --KSmrqT 02:11, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hiatus

I'm on a minor hiatus from contributing until I have my Handbook of Integrals Series and Products and my EDM (they have to be shipped from my parents house). Once I get those in my possesion I will start working on articles in my areas of interest. In the meantime I may contribute to the EulerGamma article because I brought back Havil's great book "Gamma".

Good reading in the meantime: math style manual. More specifically, I would focus on the part where it says that articles should start elementary, becomeing more complicated as it goes along. I mention that because it seems you plan to write rather technical articles based on your above reference, and then the police from Wikipedia:Make technical articles accessible will be after us. :)
By the way, Linas is also a big fan of special functions and all those tables of formulas. Ask him if you may need advice in that kind of business. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

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[edit] Best mathematician

Sorry to chime in but wars about who's best are impossible to win and very hard to end on Wikipedia. It may be better to ignore it on Euler. (Just IMHO.) Pavel Vozenilek 14:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I am not saying he is the best, I'm just stating the obvious fact that he is considered to be one of the very greatest of all time. This is a trivial thing, and you can check by visiting Gauss, Archimedes, or Newton. All of these pages say virtually the same thing, yet for some reason people hate on Euler (it is probably because hes less well known to the general public and those are the ones that go in and change it). I will not war over it though, if it is reverted again I will take it to the talk page and ask for a vote or something similar. It is rediculous that someone is targeting Euler for this type of thing and I have to protect the damn article...--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 18:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion such statements do not belong on WP for the reason of frequent warring. When (if) stable version of articles will be available the situation may be corrected. Pavel Vozenilek 14:20, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename

I've renamed your account, as requested. Your contributions under your old username are now here, and your contributions made under this username are now at Hypergeometric2F2(a,b,c,x). Best wishes, Warofdreams talk 14:31, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

Hi Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) — I'm afraid that the article you submitted, Geschwind-Galaburda cluster, appears to be a copyright violation from this page and others ((c) Monica Watkins and/or Harvard). In general it's best not to copy-and-paste articles from the web, even if you then rearrange them or omit paragraphs, as they are almost always copyrighted. Articles at Wikipedia are released under the GNU Free Documentation License (see Project:Copyrights for details), which does not allow us to import copyright material.

I've listed the article at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. Feel free to reply there or at my talk page if I've tagged the page in error. Thanks, — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 21:43, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism of your userpage

I just reverted some vandalism inflicted on your userpage by 69.17.41.210 [1]. Just thought you'd like to know. Happy editing, Bakanov (talk • contribs) 16:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks!--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 11:29, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Jonsin

A tag has been placed on Jim Jonsin, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable (see the guidelines for notability here). If you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

Please read the criteria for speedy deletion (specifically, articles #7) and our general biography criteria. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. KenWalker | Talk 07:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

As noted on the article talk page, I have deleted the speedy delete template I added. Clearly mistaken in putting it there after tracking the award you mentioned and google the artist. My apologies. I have had the same mistake made on articles I have started and it is irksome, sorry about that. KenWalker | Talk 08:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
No prob.--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 06:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] comments on euler's picture

i ran across a contib if yours at ßåd Jøkës åñd Øthër Ðélètêd Ñøñsëñsé and just wanted to drop by and give you some props for saying what must be one of the funniest things i have ever seen on WP:

I think its just traditional European academic garb. This is similar to the funny hats that Gauss is pictured wearing. This is just a guess. Regardless, Euler is the man. Do not question the Euler. He could wear women's panties on his mighty head and it would be awesome, and all of the other lesser mathematicians would copy him and wear panties on their heads.--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 07:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

seriously, gold.

this just made my day.

Frijole 01:39, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

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