Template talk:HurricaneWarning
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This template was once nominated for TfD, and the result of the debate was keep. - Mailer Diablo 15:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Usage
When using this template on a hurricane's page, just include the hurricane's name, as in {{HurricaneWarning|Hurricane Bob}}. When using it on other pages, include a link, as in {{HurricaneWarning|[[Hurricane Bob]]}}.
[edit] Discussion
[edit] Necessary?
Is this really necessary? Did the Legal say so? —BenFrantzDale 02:07, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- I don't think the reasoning behind it is legal; it's rather humanitarian. We really don't want people risking theiir lives on a page that could be vandalized.--Pharos 02:12, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Agreed. -- user:zanimum
Can you say whether or not 24.250.136.236 04:05, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Well I am one of the many people that will be affected by Hurricane Rita, and I appreciate those that made this warning. ~BRO-co03 05:09, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
This template is essentially the same one that was used on the Hurricane Katrina article during landfall. While the article turned out well enough, we did experience a fair amount of false information throughout the course of the article's development; mainly as a result of unsubstantiated rumors being added as well as vandals of the sneakier sort. I think it's only fair that we warn people of this possibility. -Loren 06:27, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- OK, fair enough. —BenFrantzDale 16:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
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- And I think Loren's capsulization there is probably the best explanation to those in the "who do we think we are that people would listen to us" and "are our readers really that stupid?" camps, as well. Would the extra sentence pointing out that anyone can edit be worth adding?
--Baylink 18:56, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- And I think Loren's capsulization there is probably the best explanation to those in the "who do we think we are that people would listen to us" and "are our readers really that stupid?" camps, as well. Would the extra sentence pointing out that anyone can edit be worth adding?
[edit] Style
This template will almost always be used with {{current}}. I would suggest that {{current}} come first for two reasons. First, the currentness of the article includes the hurricane warning. Second, HurricaneWarning is wide, so having the little {{current}} box under the wide HurricaneWarning box looks weird. I will go ahead and make that change to Hurricane Rita. —BenFrantzDale 16:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- What about including {{Current}} at the top of this template? Like you say they will generally go together. Is there any situation where they wouldn't go together? Jdorje 05:19, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
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- I can't see any reason why it wouldn't, and I concur: merge it in.
--Baylink 18:58, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
- I can't see any reason why it wouldn't, and I concur: merge it in.
[edit] Link?
I'm not familiar with the features of MediaWiki's templates, but it would be nice if the HurricaneWarning linked to Hurricane Rita, at least when it is used on other pages like Houston, Texas. Can that be done easily? —BenFrantzDale 16:36, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- It could be, if the template were not protected, by making it into a link, i.e. replacing {{1}} with [{{1}}]. --Mysidia (talk) 23:40, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, what do you think of Template:HurricaneWarning2 and Houston, Texas ? --Mysidia (talk) 23:43, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Looks good. I think [[{{1}}]] would be better since it would allow for arbitrary names of hurricanes (in case it needs a year disambiguating it or for whatever reason if it doesn't start with "Hurricane "). Can a template have an optional second argument that could be used as the link target? —BenFrantzDale 23:48, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, I made it into {{1}}. With the current software, there's no way to make an optional parameter -- the usual strategy, is to have one version of the template that accepts a parameter, and one that doesn't, as is the case with {{Delete}} and {{Deletebecause}}. --Mysidia (talk) 00:00, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Looks good. I just changed it so the {{{1}}} isn't in link brackets, that way when it is used on said hurricane's page, it doesn't create a link back to that page. Can an admin edit this page, HurricaneWarning, to be HurricaneWarning2? —BenFrantzDale 03:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Done. -Loren 04:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Great. I just updated everything that links to it and added usage above. —BenFrantzDale 04:31, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Done. -Loren 04:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Looks good. I just changed it so the {{{1}}} isn't in link brackets, that way when it is used on said hurricane's page, it doesn't create a link back to that page. Can an admin edit this page, HurricaneWarning, to be HurricaneWarning2? —BenFrantzDale 03:29, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, I made it into {{1}}. With the current software, there's no way to make an optional parameter -- the usual strategy, is to have one version of the template that accepts a parameter, and one that doesn't, as is the case with {{Delete}} and {{Deletebecause}}. --Mysidia (talk) 00:00, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Evacuate your vehicle?
I read somewhere around here that the word 'vehicle' was added to the template to refer to a camper, mobile home, or other 'live in' vehicle. I think this is a little redundant with 'shelter'. To me, it really reads as 'in motion vehicle' rather than something that can be both a shelter AND a moving vehicle. I suggest dropping 'vehicle' completely. -- Ch'marr 07:01, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Fair enough. -Loren 08:21, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] NPOV
I removed the command at the end of the template telling people how to decide whether or not to evacuate, because it is POV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]).
- Huh? Jdorje 21:51, 15 January 2006 (UTC)