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[edit] New look

I did some redesigning on the portal (been planning it for a long time but now that your attention was called to the portal, I really had to do it before someone beats me to it :) I got the banner idea from German Wikipedia's Portal Ungarn, though theirs looks too dark so I created a new one. Also, I think the text was crammed between too many pictures, and we should include the links to the descriptions of the flag and coat of arms. Please take a look at it, I'd appreciate some opinion (esp. on how it looks on different resolutions, mine's 1024x768). – Alensha 寫 词 14:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Its somewhat scary in 800x600... --Tgr 10:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Oooops... Do all portals look like this in 800x600? (if not, maybe I can copy their source...) – Alensha 寫 词 13:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Seems to be a global problem, all portals I checked look odd on 800x600 (Portal:Astronomy, Portal:European Union, de:Portal:Ungarn). Maybe with div styles it can be corrected but I'm not an expert on div. – Alensha 寫 词 15:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Things to do

  • Find out why the "edit" links don't work – it'd be much easier to update the sections if they worked
  • Decide how often will we update the selected article and pictures and the Did you know. Plan the nomination process.
  • Decide if we have enough participants to run the Hungary News section (it's kind of embarrassing that it was last updated when Sólyom became president…)
  • A template wizard also should find a more elegant solution to arrange the text & pictures of the flag & CoA in the intro. Right now it has br and center tags. (Sorry. :)
  • Someone who knows about licensing please check in Commons if the license status for the banner is good, it was made of 7 different pics with about 3-4 different licenses, I guessed cc-by-sa-2.5 and GFDL will do, but I'm not sure.

– Alensha 寫 词 14:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

(in hungarian, german wikipedia as well) --Mt7 05:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I copied this to Wikipedia:Hungarian Wikipedians' notice board. – Alensha  talk 20:28, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  :)

Why is that bad-looking old ruin the first picture in the line? It can make visitors think that Hungary is in such a terrible state...--Mathae 23:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, it's nice, and even though it's great that not that half-armed robber became our president, perhaps other things have occured since then. --Mathae 23:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

By old ruin did you mean the Parliament? :D BTW I know the news are quite old but couldn't think of anything else of importance which could replace it... the parliamentary elections? that was months ago and besides, who wants to see Gyurcsány's face there? or Bush's visit? ewww... ot the water pollution in Miskolc? I'd be accused of trying to over-Miskolcifying the page... which I will do, but more subtly, changing one picture first to a Miskolc-related one, then a second picture...
Half-armed robber, LOL... My only argument against Szili was that her name is pronounced "silly", which is not exactly the best name for someone who is supposed to represent the country.
– Alensha 寫 词 00:11, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

"which I will do, but more subtly" - I knew I could count on that :). Perhaps that Bush-guy or what's his name can be interesting. What else? Perhaps about the arrogance and open lies of the government? Or the restrictive reforms?--Mathae 22:29, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

that Bush guy is definitely not important, he's just some chieftain of some 50 colonies at the other end of the world… :-))) do you really want to see Bush on our portal? I'd rather see Gyurcsány there, and I really dislike Gyurcsány... Mr. Orbán made our job here really hard by not winning the elections :( I don't know what else qualifies as news, maybe... there was a big hailstorm 2 days ago in Miskolc; also, the water is now drinkable in Miskolc; also, the opera festival has just ended in Miskolc; also, from this Friday the Cave Bath in Miskolc will be open at nights too till August; also, complete reconstruction of the Heroes' Square in Miskolc is going on; also, the traffic went totally crazy in Miskolc, because the whole downtown is being refashioned... you see, lots of important things happen in Hungary, we just have to choose :) – Alensha 寫 词 23:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

"It is known locally as the Country of the Magyars." What is this exactly thought to be meaning?--Mathae 22:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I guess it means that locally the country is known as Magyarország. – Alensha 寫 词 23:39, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jagello

YOur history also has to do with Jagello's dynasty, so the naming discussion of the ancestor which has a new approval poll: to discuss the matter of how to name the article currently at Władysław II Jagiełło. Interested editors are invited to participate, at Talk:Władysław II Jagiełło. Shilkanni 20:10, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] >:-(

Okay, since most of the Hungarians keep their interest in the portal remarkably well hidden, I declare myself the maintainer, caretaker and Supreme Goddess of the portal. The selected article, picture and "Did you know?" will be updated every 2 weeks, starting from Saturday. twice a month, on 1st and 15th. The News section will temporarily be removed (we haven't got enough editors who could write about the most current events), and it will be replaced with a Selected anniversaries box (with content shamelessly copied from Hungarian Wikipedia where the anniversary section is updated quite regularly). Suggestions for selected stuff can be put here. If any of you don't agree, scream now or be silent forever. – Alensha 寫 词 18:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Supreme Goddess? Sounds interesting... Shalt thou have an altar erected for thee?--Mathae 21:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

hülyéskedni azt tudsz, bezzeg amikor munkáról lenne szó... :) – Alensha 寫 词 13:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Vikipédia iznt obligatori, szó áj ken end vill dú vat áj want tu, dír goddessz. Anyway, there is much more to do at the magyar Wikipédia.--Mathae 18:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

LOL! Nice fake Hungarian, Mathae, made me do a double-take. Alensha, I recognize your goddess-ness, can I be a minor deity? although, I can't speak Hungarian worth crap, so maybe I should just be Prime Minister. :) K. Lastochka 19:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First update – July 1, 2006

Portal:Hungary/Hungary news has been replaced with Portal:Hungary/Anniversaries.

Next update scheduled July 15, 2006.

– Alensha 寫 词 17:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Updates look good. Though for the picture, I suggest there be just one. -Aude (talk contribs) 16:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
it needed some rearranging, 'cause the guy who designed the portal originally put 2 pictures there, but indeed it'll be easier to find one good pic that two good pics. thanks! :) – Alensha 寫 词 19:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

Sorry, I can't help you now, I have so many works here, but I tell you my suggestions:

  • Things you can do box: should have examples of Hungary and Geography stubs. It can help contributors to work.
  • Wikiprojects box: these are not wikiprojects.
  • Did you know… box: could be longer to equalize the right side boxes.
  • Associated Wikimedia box would be needed
  • You should consider to change to currentyear/currentweek system... (see Portal:Medicine) :)

Good work! NCurse work 16:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I would like to suggest for selected article on 15 July the following. --Hunadam (=Adapa!) 17:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


The siege of Belgrade

On 22 July 2006, Hungarians remember of the 550th anniversary of the great victory of Nándorfehérvár (or siege of Belgrade).

After the fall of Constantinople in 1453, Ottoman sultan Mehmed II was rallying his resources in order to subjugate the Kingdom of Hungary. His immediate objective was the border fort (Hungarian végvár) of the town of Belgrade (in old Hungarian: Nándorfehérvár). John Hunyadi, a Hungarian nobleman and warlord from a Wallachian lineage, who fought many battles against the Ottomans in the previous two decades, expected just such an attack.

The siege took place between 4-22 July 1456. It eventually escalated into a major battle, during which Hunyadi led a sudden counterattack that overran the Turkish camp, ultimately compelling the wounded Sultan Mehmet II to lift the siege and retreat. The siege of Belgrade "decided the fate of Christendom"1.

The noon bell ordered by Pope Callixtus III commemorates the victory throughout the Christian world to this day.

cool, then this will be the next selected article. thanks. :) – Alensha 寫 词 19:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Associated Wikimedia maybe should contain Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Uncyclopedia... :) NCurse work 20:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Second update – July 15, 2006

  • Selected article: Siege of Belgrade, as suggested by HunAdam
  • Selected picture: Image:Plattensee in Ungarn S3000086.jpg
  • Did you know?: Esztergom Basilica
  • Anniversaries: death of king Charles Robert, siege of Belgrade, birth of Louis II, death of Éva Janikovszky. was tempted to include the start of tram traffic in Miskolc from article MVK Zrt., but I pledged not to over-Miskolcize the page, and anyway I'll do it next year, a 110th anniversary is much nicer :)

Next update scheduled July 30-31, 2006.

– Alensha 寫 词 14:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Third update – July 31, 2006

Yeah!! :) NCurse work 16:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
only because I haven't found anything better... :-) – Alensha  talk 18:24, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Next update scheduled August 16, 2006.

– Alensha  talk 13:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fourth (…belated…) update – August 15 (okay, I admit it was actually the 17th…) 2006

  • Selected article: Borsod, recently written by me :) I warned y'all that I'll fill the portal with Miskolc-related stuff… no more happy days for that Debrecen rascal who stole my idea of putting images into signatures…
It means POV pushing... I'll call one or two admins' attention... :)) NCurse work 00:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I thought you were on Wikibreak. Does your presence here mean that the wonderful metropolis of Debrecen doesn't have enough attractions to keep your attention for a longer time? :))) – Alensha  talk 14:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Next update scheduled August 31, 2006.

– Alensha  talk 00:04, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fifth update, September 1

Next update scheduled September 15, 2006. – Alensha  talk 17:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Bad update, I must say... No Debrecen related content. I'll ask admins to block you from maintaining this portal... :) NCurse work 19:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
debrecen? what's that? – Alensha  talk 23:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sixth update

Next update will be around September 30 if I have time.

– Alensha  talk 19:24, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Seventh update – September 30, 2006.

  • Good choice, I hate mountains... Could you please translate it for the english users too? >:) NCurse work 17:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I was searching for the English term for gémeskút while writing this; on the portal itself it's already called "sweep well" (Wiki doesn't have an article for it, but Google knows this term). This talk page is usually watched by the maintainers of the portal only (=me), but in case an English-speaking someone happens to come here, Hortobágyi gémeskút means "a sweep well on the Hortobágy (which is a f**king big, boring plain occupying most of Southern Hungary, surrounding a shabby little town called Debrecen whose only claim to fame is that a would-be enwiki admin, for some mysteriously unexplainable reason, chose to live there.) – Alensha  talk 20:41, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
In seven days, maybe you should consider being afraid of blockings for comments like that. :)) NCurse work 21:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
That would be a futile attempt; I would come back with a sock puppet and would request the removal of your admin rights for abusing it :-P – Alensha  talk 21:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Did you know? Szanticska, smallest inhabited settlement
  • Anniversaries: George II Rákóczi became Ruling Prince of Transylvania; Péter Pázmány was born; the Parliament Building and Erzsébet Bridge of Budapest were inaugurated.

funny, but the Did you know? was the hardest now, all my first ideas were wrong for some reason... Mancs is formally still up for deletion, though it has no chance to be deleted; hu:Művészetek Háza doesn't have an EnWiki article now (even though I thought I already wrote it...), Cave Bath will be featured on the portal when I have a pic about the inside too, b/c it's the interesting about it; University of Pécs is still a stub, Bibliotheca Corviniana wil be featured when it has the picture at least one of the codices... – Alensha  talk 17:29, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A proposal for the 8th update

My proposal for the following selected article. --Hunadam 08:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Time's cover on 7 January 1957
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Time's cover on 7 January 1957

The Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (23 Oct - 10 Nov), was a spontaneous nationwide revolt against the Communist dictatorship, the State Police (ÁVH), and Soviet domination. On 23 October, it began as a peaceful student demonstration which quickly attracted more than 200,000 Budapest inhabitants to the Parliament building. When protesters were fired upon from the windows of the Radio building, the population rose against the dictatorship. The revolt spread quickly across Hungary. On 3 November a national government was formed which disbanded ÁVH, declared its intention to withdraw from the Warsaw Pact and pledged to re-establish multiparty democracy. On 4 November, a large Soviet force invaded. Thousands of civilians fighted against them, but their organized resistance was crushed by 10 November. As a consequence, mass arrests began, and an estimated 200,000 Hungarians fled as refugees. All public discussion about the revolution was suppressed in Hungary for over 30 years. Since the political changes in 1990, the day of the beginning of the revolution, 23 October, is a national holiday in Hungary.

[edit] Articles to work on

All for same reasons. You know. PANONIAN, Juro, Tankred and such guys, who knows everithing just a bit better :) And knows history in a very very...ummm...unique way :) --VinceB 01:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I know, but this would need at least a WikiProject... Portal:Hungary is still a one-person project, it seems, and I can't keep an eye on everything :( – Alensha talk 19:57, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 8th update (Oct 19, 2006)

(sorry, I was ill, couldn't update in time)

  • Selected article: Hungarian Revolution of 1956 (will also be featured on main page on the anniversary)
  • Selected picture: Image:Heviz lake.jpg Hévíz, thermal lake
  • Did you know? Many Western Hungarian cities were founded by Ancient Romans
  • Anniversaries: Ottomans left Pécs; Franz Liszt was born, János Arany died, the revolution in 1956, László Papp's death.

– Alensha talk 19:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 9th update (Nov 6, 2006)

– Alensha talk 19:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 10th update (Dec 2, 2006)

  • Selected article: Flag of Hungary
  • Selected picture: Image:Arany.gif
  • Did you know?
  • Anniversaries: Pozsony was granted city status, János Bolyai was born, Józef Bem died, Ányos Jedlik died, Sopron 1921 referendum, Blood In The Water match, Lake Fertő became a UNESCO World Heritage Site.

– Alensha talk 17:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 11th update (special Puskás Ferenc memorial edition) Dec. 9

I know it's a little early for an update but I wanted to try my hand at it. :)

  • Selected article: Golden Team
  • Selected picture: Image:Puskas_Ferenc.jpg
  • Did you know?
  • Anniversaries: I added György Sándor's death and Puskás's funeral (egad, I'm morbid) and removed the somewhat out-of-date Pozsony one.

K. Lástocska 15:42, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Available Images (and new articles)

I've kept myself busy on some Hungarian items as of late: a gallery of photos (I hope to get some more of Eger uploaded perhaps next week), a new article on Liberty Statue, and a new article on the Gellért Hill Cave. Regarding the latter, I am aware of about a dozen different names for this -- all of them from natives of Budapest. Is there any agreed upon name that the article should be moved to, or do you think it's OK where it is? Szia! --Thisisbossi 05:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Those photos are great! Köszönöm szépen! K. Lástocska 14:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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