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    [edit] Making up words

    One question for all of you: Doesn't making up words count as humor? Like if i tell my friends I'm going to "Wikipedia" it? I know it derives some laughter because it's so common yet unmentioned, so does that count too? I'd like to hear some thoughts. --Macrowiz 04:53, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)


    "It has been claimed that humour cannot be explained. However, attempts can be made, such as this one"I like poo do you?

    Is that funny, or am I just a Itioot?

    I thought it was hilarious actually....now theres two of us...

    Dissapointed to find "Poo" leading right back to humour. Seems like it should have it's own page. Datepalm17 15:01, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)


    [edit] Vancouver Sun

    Announcement: This page was listed in the Saturday, May 29 edition of the Vancouver Sun as one of the best pages for humour on the internet. Kathy T 20:19, May 30, 2004 (UTC)

    [edit] Added a link

    I added a link, http://www.iridis.com/glivar/Humour . I am not sure if it has more information than the wiki articles or if it just shows them in a different format, but the things on it are things I havn't yet seen here. It gives credit to the wikipedia.

    I took it back off because it seems to be just a copy of this article. I will keep it in here for reference.


    [edit] Why isn't there a link to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Humour somewhere prominent on this page?

    Why isn't there a link to http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Humour somewhere prominent on this page? maybe an icon just to the left of the page/entry's Title? maybe a "Lookup {current page title word}" to the right somewhere? these are simple questions to ask. like "where's your toilet?". so little real estate; so much scissorgy.  :)Ozzyslovechild 04:42, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

    So add it yourself! Be bold! --Zakharov 01:14, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

    Trust thyself, young padawan. Have confidence.--OleMurder 12:48, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

    Thanks for the encouragements:). I was just scribling on this discussion page cuz that's where i was when it occured to me to ask/suggest, but it's more of a site layout topic not specific to this article. I wanted to be reminded later of the wonder on my watchlist so I could mull it again and then at some point ask it somewhere that discusses the overall layout. Seems like there should be a link to the relevant Wiktionary article for all Wikipedia search terms, with implementation decisions needing to think about for all or for all single-word searches? for only those which have Wiktionary articles already created for them? for only those with articles already created & for words that exist in a valid-word file depending on technical feasibility? -:)Ozzyslovechild 21:29, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

    [edit] Bad Link

    Why does lawyer (in the rabbi, priest, lawyer example joke) link to shark? is this intended humo(u)r?Stale Fries 01:53, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

    • Yes this was intended humor. Quite amusing, really. I fixed it though DaveTheRed 02:11, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
      • I know that asking kills the joke, but what is the significance or humor in this? Besides the fact that lawyers are obviously not sharks...Stale Fries 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

    Lawyers are frequently called "sharks," "ambulance chasers," etc. 220.110.204.129 01:48, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

    • Sample joke: "Q: Why won't sharks eat a lawyer? A: Professional courtesy." Jerry Kindall 20:17, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Humour

    This article isn't very funny. Anyone mind if I add a pun or two? Or maybe it's already subtly been incorporated but I'm too dumb to figure it out. 24.64.223.203 14:05, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

    This is an article about humour, not a humourous article. --Pokettrokett 10:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Verbal vs. NonVerbal

    it seams to me that catagoricaly seperating into "verbal" and "nonverbal" hinders the scope of complexity within which each style of humure opperates. alternatives? we recognize that books are humorass and thus "literal" would make a good catagory. and then knowing that we can listen to jerky boys or a richard prior album we recognize verbal or audio /hyu-mer/ is "literal" + other factors such as timing, intonation, dialects/voices, and bodily noises (like spitting/blowing a rasberry). and then there is "performative" or "visual" hoomoar which is much of the "verbal" + visual stimulation through facial expressions, costume, timing of movement, visual satire/charicature, sequential cartoon or surrealism. So many of these styles "parody", "dry humur",etc exist in all of "literal", "verbal/audio" and "visual/performative" catagories of humore. but "performative/visual" cant do everything that the "literal" can accomplish. for instance punctuation or type hughmar. (ie, James Joyce or the imagist poets) each catagory as defined by its medium carries its own "media humre" that can only exist within that particular medium of communication. some might call this a "metaphysical hiumir". point being, we need to both broaden and specify the catagorical listings. if this is not possible then i prepose we do away with catagorization of the hummors all together.(20:19, 6 April 2006 68.23.111.15)

    [edit] Relation with humour

    Shouldn't it have more examples of humour around the world? Every culture deals with humour in a very particular way... I have an old book with me, "Around the World with Laughter" (Pierre Daninos), and although the book isn't updated (I have a 1º edition from 1956) it contains a great deal of historically relevant and interesting information about humour. For example, in Japan people's relation to humour is always secondary, due to their rather serious nature. In the beginning of the last century, when the first company of Italian Opera settled in Japan, the show was regarded as being highly amusing, leading the auditory to tears of laughter. The book doesn’t state the reasons why this happen, but I guess it's a case of cultural shock. Again, this is a very old book and I don't know the sufficient to talk about the current situation of humour in Japan. I would lend a hand on the editing, but I don't feel secure of my English (I’m a native speaker of Portuguese) and I'm a Wikipedia newbie. I can only do so much as quoting the book I have in my possession. Kind of pathetic, but it's the least I can do.


    Baltazar A.S. dos Passos

    P.S.: Ah! And what about physical humour? P.P.S.: Man's relation to humour is something unique in nature. We can laugh at something stupid like a fart but the same display will leave an animal indifferent or at best startle it. Aren't there any philosophies related to humour? The main impression I get from seeing Monty Python's films is that humour at times functions as a way to justify life itself... Maybe this would prove to be a worthy topic.

    --213.190.195.101 14:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] More specific references

    I think the Understanding humour section in very interesting; althoug I think it is really missing specifig source references.--BMF81 21:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

    Tack {{cite needed}} after anything you think could use it, then?  –Aponar Kestrel (talk) 21:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
    you're right, i'll be bold. --BMF81 22:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!

    What is with this retooling! I came here so I could see the techniques but SOMEONE retooled the ENTIRE ARTICLE and got rid of the techniques! AT A TIME WHEN I NEEDED THEM A LOT.

    I fixed it myself. Hmph.

    [edit] Suggested Merge with Comedy

    I proposed these two pages be merged since they cover the same topic. Given that Comedy was put up first, Humour could easily be added as a subsection therein. This page should be replaced with a disambiguation page between the current and archaic meanings of Humour. 203.199.50.16 10:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

    Humor and Comedy are two distinct things. The important distinction I think is that Humorism regards the tecniques that provoke a laugh; comedy is insted one of the possible uses of humor (to just have fun); another use being satire (to have fun to make people think and provoke social change).--BMF81 10:57, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

    Yup. They are different things. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 12:17, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Spelling

    I was going to fix "humourous" which appears several times here, and many times across Wikipedia. I'm fairly sure it is an error, although dictionary.com does list it. However, Dictionary.com also lists, for example, "publically", which I think is clearly wrong.

    Does anybody object to standardising on "humorous"? I'll hold off for now. See also [1]

    --Guinnog 11:23, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

    Done. --Guinnog 18:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
    You're right, in all dialects of English humorous is the correct spelling. MrTroy 12:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    Thanks for that. So far nobody has complained, so I'm confident I did the right thing! --Guinnog 12:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    Just to confirm - 'humourous' is always incorrect - you were right to change it to 'humorous'. L1v3rp00l 21:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Woody Allen reference in techniques section

    I deleted a reference to Woody Allen in the techniques section, as it was not relevant.

    It is highly relevant as it is explained:

    Humor is a branch of rhetoric, and there are about 200 tropes that can be used to make jokes. A notable example on this is the classical trilogy of Woody Allen's writings (Getting Even, Without Feathers, Side Effects), which covers the whole comedy spectrum, using all the 200 tropes.

    If you really want to keep that out, you better give a reason for that.--BMF81 11:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


    [edit] "The Style Of Humor" and "Specific techniques for evoking humour" sections

    What are the differences between these two sections? For instance, I do not see a reason why "satire" is only in the Style of Humor section, yet not in the Specific Techniques section. Could it not be considered both?

    I am just curious about the difference, but maybe it should be written into the article. It was the first thing I noticed when I started reading it. BrotherGeorge 04:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] hairlarious

    Haha. I added the "Meta Humour" section under "Understanding humour".

    It's really intersting that an article talking the world about humour that isn't even humourous (example of meta humour).

    Or a website seriously dedicated to jokes.

    [edit] Link

    I think The Funny Wiki would be a good thing for External Links. A website where they can actually add funny stuff. So, can I put it there? Can I have permission please? —The Thing (Talk) (Stuff I did) 21:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

    That link doesn't even work. (anonymous) 08:27, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
    It moved here. —The Thing (Talk) (Stuff I did) 21:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

    That's just some site with jokes. It doesn't contain any actual info about humor. It's not like an essay on humor or interviews with comedians.

    [edit] Humor\Humour

    Why does Humor redirect to Humour, an article in which the subject is spelled humor? Prometheus-X303- 09:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

    Erm...it should be spelled humour in the article, I believe There's been a lot of discussion on humor/humour --iamajpeg 20:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC) To clarify, it should be spelled humour in the article because the title is humour, at the moment. I'm not reopening the whole 'should the title be humor/humour' debate --iamajpeg 21:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

    That's fine. I didn't want debate anyway, just to know why it was spelled without the u in the article. Seemed kinda silly.Prometheus-X303- 09:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

    [edit] Terribly Written

    This article feels as if it was written to fulfill a "Number of words" requirement. There are quite a few sentences which go nowhere and I don't find it funny. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.174.233.191 (talk) 19:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

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