Talk:Humanistic Judaism

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[edit] unitarian monotheism

from what i've been able to piece together, judaism tends to teach unitarian monotheism. this makes it rather hard for me to understand humanistic judaism.

i've done quite a bit of research lately on unitarian monotheism.

Gringo300 19:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Unitarian belief is often humanistic in outlook. However, Humanistic Judaism is non-theistic. Yet, the religion celebrates beliefs that our consistent with the philosophy of Humanistic Jews.

--Ron

[edit] Humanistic ?

I agree with your definition of Judaism, it conotates Jewish Religion. Many of the communities do not use this word. Your assumption that it is here today gone tomorrow is a poor one. The movement is growing, not decreasing, and its roots go back to the 1700's. Many Jews, are Secular and also Culturally identify and do not want to loose this rich inheritance. The mixed marriages are being married by the leaders of the movement, their children go to the schools, stay in the fold at either the Yiddish model which our community based were you learn about the culture, the members explore the bible, Talmud, history and also their own family values and come together to practice life cycle events as a community, CSJO.org or the temple model, www.SHJ.org. Consider learning more about it. Critics can be found everywhere, but acceptance is becoming the norm.

The word humanistic in humanistic judaism is laughable. Judaism has been humanistic for 3000 years, its main focus are on moral and ethics. Humanistic Judaism looks like a group of atheist ethnic jews that need a synagogue. However, their probable high intermarriage rate will slowly make them disappear.

I know that this place is an encyclopedia and its goal is only to describe. I have been searching for critics about non-theism "judaism" (judaism = monotheism so this does not make sense...) but I did not find anything other than the humanistic links of this article. If anyone has anything :-) (in english or french) --Squallgreg 15:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, exactly correct. Judaism is humanistic, and it is communal and the idea that it is only religous is a modern idea. The Jews were considered to be a national entity, like being Puerto Rican or French living in the US. Will your off-springs off-spring four generations from now still be french? I know many many 4th generation Secular and Humanistic Jews who think it is loads of fun and don't mind you laughing at them. Rabbinic models that find their community in a synagogue, isn't the only model to form a community to celebrate their Jewish Identity. What presents itself as mainstream Judaism is a complex amalgam of ideas and beliefs assimilated into the Jewish Psyche through contact with outside cultures and diversity within Jewish life. It isn't an unbroken chain from moses to this day. --unsigned (tag added by Squallgreg)

Could you please sign your comment ? Just type 4 times this symbol : ~. In ancient times (before diaspora), one became Israelite by accepting the customs and the laws of Israel. So someone who started worshipping Yawheh in Israel was assimilated and became Israelite. The notion of nation and religion was one single notion, there was no separation like today. That is why rejecting the Torah, not respecting the Halakha and not beliving in God cannot be considered as "xxx Judaism". However, I'd rather see Humanistic jews celebrating jewish holidays than assimilated jews celebrating Christmas and Halloween ! Of course modern Judaism is not like ancient Judaism at the time of the Temple, but we still rely on the written Torah. The oral Torah and the commentaries of Rabbis were necessary to adapt to new issues that where not explicitly discussed in the written Torah. The central tenets are the same and are based on the belief of one God. Even modern jewish philosophy is based on the existence of God.

-- Squallgreg 22:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)