Talk:Human wave attack

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Many of the examples listed here as human wave attacks are actually examples of deception. In Korea for example while the PLA had a numerical advantagetage it wasnt overwhelming. Due to rapid movement and attacks from behind the lines the Chinese gave USA forces the impression of a human wave attack. The same is true for other examples.--Gary123 00:11, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. The article should mention that the term is somewhat disparaging. In reality, 'human wave' is a term usually used by losers of the battle to explain their defeat due to (supposed) enemy superiority and disregard of human life. Actual examples of "human wave" tactics are often merely showcases of concentration of force and speed and surprise of the attacker. Almost any infantry assault looks like a "human wave" to unfamiliar or spooked observator. --Mikoyan21 12:08, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

It is a bit puzzling why such a large part of the article is about the Korean war - especially when the authors claim that no human wave attacks are being conducted in that war... Unless the authors are wrong, that makes it a bit off topic right? I am also not truly convinced that the authors are completely unbiased. Their only quoted source being the Chinese Military Forum does not bode to well for credibility... bjarkehingrumme 22:15, 22 september 2006 (GMT)

I hope I've done the right thing. I lifted part of the "How Wars Are Won by Bevin Alexander" citation from the Korean war article, on the principle that not everyone will go to that article and find it.It does belong here, but am I wasting bandwidth by repeating something already covered by another article?KTo288 06:54, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle droid

Mzajac, I linked Battle droid from "see also" and you removed it say the connection is tenuous. Battle droids use a dumb "wave attack", so despite not being human I think there is enough of a connection for "see also". —Quarl ^(talk) 2006-01-29 20:24Z

[edit] Relevance of 'Franco-Prussian War' material

While I found the material on the Franco-Prussian War interesting and informative, it does not seem to explicitly discuss the attack strategies used in the war, human wave or otherwise, by the two sides. Maybe someone with knowledge of the subject could add to the section and tie the information back to the human wave attack? Twistor 18:54, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes I was wondering if I was going off track a bit but I put it in because its the seed tactically (as much as it was politically) for the human wave attacks of the First World War. The Prussian experience led to the massed "clockwork" armies trying to batter each other into oblivion, as well as the concept that as long as you destroyed more of the enemies fighting ability then your own i.e, attrition you could prevail. Without the Prussian experience, the First World war might have been fought with much smaller armies, dancing around each other trying to find an opening for a killer blow, a war between stilletos rather than clubs.Koonan the almost civilised 10:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)