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	To-do list for Howard Stern Show:	edit - history - watch - refresh
	Fix missing citations, add fact tag when needed (You may find some good sources in the Private Parts book.) 1980's section needs fixing up, contains Biographical info. Really we need the starting date for the show listed there and other early history.

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/August 2006 - October 2006

[edit] Common Sayings

In an effort to shorten the article I took out a few of the common sayings. I don't think we need a list that long. If anybody else sees any that are not notable, feel free to remove. Likewise if I removed a critical one, feel free to add it back. --Center4499 12:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it's a pretty silly list to have. If it was up to me it'd just be gone completely. LilDice 14:34, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] O&A Conflicts section Resolution

This issue went to mediation, and all the cowards who keep anon reverting the section never spoke up about it in mediation. I did my best to argue what I felt is right for the article and we reached a compromise. What we need to do now is integrate the section in question into the 2000s section and then we will remove the current section. Please see Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-09-27_Howard_Stern_Show_Article_Relevance_Debate if you're interested in how the mediation went down.

My solution:

In 2000 Stern asked his Infinity Broadcasting bosses to stop Opie and Anthony, who were also employed at Infinity, from attacking him and his family on their radio show. Infinity agreed and a gag order was placed on the two DJ's.^[1]

Looks like it's on the right track to me. Only objection would be the quote 'from attacking him and his family'. The article and the interview don't say what Stern specifically asked for, and doesn't mention his family. So I guess I object to the word attacking. Perhaps we could say "from talking about him and his family on their radio show". I also think the quote about censorship would be relevant. It came from his mouth, and I think it sums up his position pretty clearly? --Bill.matthews 23:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

You're right, I assumed that would be in the FMQB article, but I don't see it. That's fine changing it to talking about his family. As for the censorship quote, I think it's just Howard being sensational for Hannity. I don't think it's his real position. I don't want to get in to a whole censorship argument again. But, Howard's actual position has been that he didn't want people who he felt were stealing his act to have free reign to disparage him and his family while working for the same company. In the interest of getting this thing done, let's just leave the I believe in censorship quote out for now and let the reader decide if Howard is hypocritical or not. Sound fair?LilDice 23:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I see your point, that works for me! --Bill.matthews 00:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was agreed that the quotes be left in because they were important to the article, and provided some insight into the conflict. The parts aboot his family, however, become OR because they're not mentioned in the article, but I still believe that part should be in as well. But I also feel that in the way it was said and who it was directed at, it was not *just* because of Stern's family. As a side, a double hypocracy is this cretainly did not stop Howard from trash talking the families of others, including Don Imus and Opie. Payneos 16:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Does this "conflict" really rate a section on this article? A tiny mention perhaps, but certainly not an entire section. Opie & Anthony are hardly consequential to Stern's career or his fans. - TerrestrialSux 17:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

If you read the mediation case the compromise was to remove the section and place in the 2000's section and give it a mention which we are trying to work out above. LilDice 19:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I've added this to the 2000's section -- didn't know when you'd turn up again Payneos. I don't remember agreeing that the quotes were necessary. I mean, the users can get a good idea of what actually occured and draw their own conclusion POV-wise.I really don't want to argue about this anymore... LilDice 18:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I didn't mind you moving it, I think it's a good idea. We never agreed on the quotes, because it wasn't the quotes themselves we argued aboot, but the relevancy of the whole article. The quotes are a major part of the article, and the article has relevance. I think it has credence. I don't ,uch want to argue either, but I feel it needs to be expanded upon more than one sentence. Payneos 18:55, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we need to rehash Opie and Anthony's rebuttal or Stern's specific remarks to the caller in the article. I did remove the part about his family (it isn't sourced, my mistake) and added an extra sentance about it being contraversial and Stern not admitting it until 2006. LilDice 19:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I like it. It's fairly written, can be cited, and is not POV either way. Very well done LilDice *thumbs up* =) Payneos 00:29, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, now that we're done with this - how bout u spend some energy on the todo list for the article ;) LilDice 00:35, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

You know, I think that's a fair deal. I will go ahead and do that next time I'm on and around. Which should be late tomorrow night. Payneos 07:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)