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[edit] Theme Tune

I know the article says the theme tune in the UK etc. was composed specifically for House, but other sources around the 'net state it as Jakatta - American Dream. It certainly sounds like it to me, I don't know if I'm falling for a common misconception though. 86.130.97.208 19:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] House-enburg Uncertainty Principle

Is the "value" of this really necessary? I mean, does a phrase used at one collge/university have enough merit to be in an encycolpedia? Bbroach725 18:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stacy: Wife or girlfriend?

Right, I've reverted enough edits so far. Let's get the quotes from the show which say they were married. Sockatume 21:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

They were never married. I don't have the exact quotes right now, but marriage was never mentioned. They did live together for five years though, as stated by Stacy in Honeymoon. Bbroach725 18:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

They were never married to our knowledge. In the episode Three Stories, it's specifically pointed out that Stacy is House's medical proxy -- not his wife. Your wife is automatically the one to make medical decisions for you in you cannot, so calling his wife a medical proxy would both be incorrect as well as redundant. Furthermore, when they broke up and he meets her again -- also in Three Stories -- they mention that she got married. Not re-married. They lived together for five years, broke up, and she got married to Mark. End of story. Callandor 01:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Unless I see any quotes to the contrary I'm going to start editing it to read "partner". This goes for the Gregory House article too. Sockatume 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Partner? What, law partner? Dance partner? Bridge partner? Way too generic a term. We know that they were dating, as Callandor wrote it was never even implied that they were married, so stick with Boyfriend/Girlfriend. --Maelwys 01:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, I don't know the format of the quotes very well, so you'll have to excuse that. But the episode I cited I sure felt was more than enough. But here we go, from the episode Three Stories, from this website -- http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/house/season1/house-121.htm

"House: Who am I looking at?

Stacy: My husband.

House: Who is suffering abdominal pain and fainting spells. No sign of tumors, no vasculitis. Could be indigestion, or maybe a kidney stone. A little one, can pack a lot of wallop.

Stacy: Did you think I wasn’t going to get married?"

Then later in the episode:

"Wilson: You didn’t think she was going to get married?

House: She asked me the same question."

And then the proxy part:

"Stacy: What happens after he’s in the coma?

Cuddy: We’ll obviously monitor his condition closely, and if he can get through the next forty-eight hours without another cardiac incident –

Stacy: I meant, I’m his health-care proxy, I get to make medical decisions for him if he’s not able to.

Cuddy: You should talk to him about what he wants to do."

And finally an episode I forgot to mention. From Sports Medicine, and the website -- http://www.twiztv.com/scripts/house/season1/house-112.htm

"Cameron: You ever been married?

House: [quietly] Well now, let’s not ruin a lovely night out by getting personal.

[They walk along in silence for a few seconds]

House: I lived with someone for a while. [Looks down at his empty cotton candy cone, then at Cameron’s] You gonna finish that?"

There's leeway to say that House was married, but it was clearly not to Stacy. Again, end of story. Callandor 03:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I like how this USA network source states it: [1]. Its not official as Fox but still shows that she was never his wife. Gdo01 10:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed factual errors

I removed a number of errors. First, the article stated that House's Hallucination in Meaning was the result of the absence of his leg pain in the beginning of Season 3, although CLEARLY House askes for ketamine when he wakes up.

In addition, it said that both House and Holmes refuse to admit that their drug habits are addictions. However, in the season 1 episode "Detox" House admits that he is addicted, but that it isn't a problem.

Ester Doyle's name was spelled Esther in the article. Although House did spell it "Esther" on his white board, the file says Ester, which can be assumed to be the correct name.

The article said that it was revealed in Meaning that House's shooter was to be named Moriarty. However, this was never stated during the show, but the shooter was simply named Moriarty in the script.

Bbroach725 03:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed some odd comments

"Very funny" from the end of Dr. Foreman's description, "Also cannot match clothes/wear anything tasteful to save his life" from the end of Dr Chase's, and "Has a thing for vests/pantsuits and hair clips" from Dr Cameron's.


Another comment that caught my eye; rarely anyone dies. I recall an episode where a lady was bitten by a bat and had rabies? I believe she died. but not to sure. Sorry if I made an error in typing this here, first time. huy2k 59.167.185.208 10:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I can recall two episodes where at least one person died in the end, the Rabies/Homeless woman, and the College student/Radioactive material one. I've seen mosts episodes, and can't currently recall any others, and frankly don't feel like researching. If anyone can recall any other episodes bring it up, because this quip does seem to be an interesting point on the show and worth inclusion.D-rew 20:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, off the top of my head there's also the police officer who got Foreman sick, and the old researcher who wanted a physician-assisted suicide. Can't find a guide to how many patients have died, despite all the lists of other trivia out there... I haven't seen all the episodes but I also feel like considering how often patients are on the brink of death, not very many of them actually die. Which is to be expected; House and the team are supposed to be really, really good at what they do, and even if it's not realistic to expect them to solve every case, TV viewers would take failures as evidence that they just weren't that good. I guess it's worth noting that while the police officer died, they did still solve the mystery (and save Foreman). *ahem* Anyway, in my opinion it's probably worth including the statement that patients rarely die. --Galaxiaad 21:18, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and as for the physician-assisted suicide guy: in the end they did solve the mystery before he died, and he got his wish because they found his disease was incurable. Could it have worked out any other way? ;) --Galaxiaad 21:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC) (who love, love, loves House, and damnit, I know Wikipedia is not a discussion forum, but I can't help myself)
I don't think "rarely" is the word. In edition to the homeless woman, the college student, and the police officer, there was also baby in "Maternity", the wife in "Babies and Bathwater", and both the mother and baby in "Forever". If this issue must be included, I think it should be "often" rather than "Rarely". SousaFan88 02:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] First person voice in plot section?

What's up with the "I've never seen someone die" bit at the end of the plot section? 12.10.217.50 14:42, 18 October 2006 (UTC) Anony


Whoops, never mind. Was looking at old version.

yeah, I got rid of that. --RazorICE 08:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spoilers?

On the character list it mentions two recurring characters:

  • Stacy Warner (Sela Ward) – Dr. House's ex-girlfriend and former lawyer for Princeton-Plainsboro Teaching Hospital.

and

  • Edward Vogler (Chi McBride) – Billionaire owner of a pharmaceutical firm and former board chairman of the hospital.

I've just bought season 2 of House and I'm working my way through it; AFAIK Stacy Warner is still the lawyer. If she become the 'former' lawyer is this not giving something away about what is to come? In the same way, stating that Edward Vogler is the former board chairman is both giving away that he will take over the role and that he will lose this position for someone who is working their way through season 1.

--Shastrix 17:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hm, and the characters list is before the spoiler tags. I suppose one thing we could do is just move the template up... what would you suggest though? If we leave out the word "former" then it wouldn't be currently true... --Galaxiaad 20:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
The main characters are involved from the outset, so knowing about them isn't really spoiling anything; the recurring characters on the other hand turn up later in the series and may therefore reveal aspects of the plot. I think placing the recurring characters within the spoilers section would probably be best as editing the descriptions will make them inaccurate and removing them would render the section meaningless. --Shastrix 19:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I decided to move the spoilers tag to above where the recurring characters are mentioned. Even though this makes the format of the article less aesthetically pleasing, I feel mentioning details of the polt outside the tag constitutes spoliers. --Shastrix 14:01, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Empty Episode Deletion

Hey, if you've looked at some of the first season episodes, you'll see that I've started some of the episode pages but there's no real content there. I got a message saying that they would be deleted soon if they're not filled in a little bit. I'm not very good at that and I was wondering if you guys would be willing to help fill in some of the info to save having to redo the work again. Even basic info would keep it alive a little bit longer. Sorry for my incompetance :( --Sidewinded 23:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Dubbing" section

Parts of the script are regularly changed in content during translation in order to make contexts understandable also for people unfamiliar with American culture. For example in the episode "Honeymoon" (1-22) Dr. Cameron asks Stacy about people with mental diseases in her husband's family. In the original version she answers: "His sister voted for Nader - twice!" while in the German dubbed version Ralph Nader's name is replaced by the one of George W. Bush.

Is that really necessary? I've always understood that that kind of thing is standard practice for dubbing TV shows and movies, and as such isn't unique to this show at all. --Switch 11:12, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Remove Dagnabit 11:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Kind of amusing, but not encyclopedic. Remove. --Galaxiaad 17:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Season 2 finale

Exactly how much of the season 2 finale was hallucinated? The article currently says "the entire episode" but clearly that isn't true, since he *was* shot... I'm still a little confused about the whole thing though, so clarification is welcome. --Galaxiaad 03:32, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I'll see if I can clarify it on the article. It's been a while since I've seen the episode, but basically everything between him being shot and seeing him wheeled in on a hospital bed was hallucinated, if I recall correctly. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 03:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
It is almost impossible to establish exactly how much of the episode was hallucinated, so let's just use a qualitative amount. I would say most of it was except for when he got shot and the end when he woke up. I think that everything in between was hallucinated because in a season 3 episode, Wilson (or was it foreman?) says "They never caught the guy," which implies that he was never shot and hospitalized, which would make the whole middle part hallucinated. -KLink/NiN10col/Neotendo123 00:39, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How many series are there?

I'm working on a request to improve the episode template, and I need to know that. I can't find it anywhere in the article. -Amarkov blahedits 00:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, what are your opinions on adding a diagnosis on the infobox? That was the main request, but I'm not sure it's a good idea. -Amarkov blahedits 00:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I second the Diagnosis in the episode guide movement. -KLink/NiN10col/Neotendo123 00:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

There's only one series, if I understand what you're asking for, but we're now into the third season of that series. Those are the most recent episodes. And I agree, diagonsis in the guide would be good. Callandor 05:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I meant seasons, sorry. I'm going to go add a diagnosis parameter now. -Amarkov blahedits 16:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Added as {{{diagnosis}}}. -Amarkov blahedits 16:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Title

In the opening credits, the word House is displayed for a few seconds, and then M.D. fades in slightly to the right and below the line. Should this article be redirected to a new article that reflects the "correct" title? - Dudesleeper 03:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this was debated in the Archives (top right). It was originally at House, MD I think, and moved here because Fox publicity material and schedules referred to it as "House".Sockatume 04:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Please see previous discussions here and here. The quick summary is that all "official" material refers to the show as "House" without the "M.D.", while some unofficial sites (such as IMDB) do use the "M.D.". There are plenty of redirects to this article, so no reader will have difficulty finding it. SuperMachine 12:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this shouldn't be labelled as a dramedy. House just makes wisecracks, that doesn't label it as comedy.

[edit] realism

House covers a lot of technical stuff and has very interesting and graphic medical procedures and diagnostic methods. But do they reflect real life? Do doctors in a high class hospital really sit in groups and discuss one patient like that, do they follow a similar method of deduction like with the whiteboards and guessing? Do they really do all the interesting things, like clamping that girls head and killing her for a while for a test in episode 2 of season 2? If anyone has access to a feature on these things, or is a doctor themselves, it would be brilliant to see a section talking about this on the House (TV) page JayKeaton 14:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Um, no. Check this out: [2] . I posted that in the article a few months ago, but it was removed. It should answer your questions. dposse 19:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
That is a very good article Dposse, it should definitely be an external link with the name "USA Today looks into the realism of House" or summat like that. JayKeaton 07:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree, it is a good article. Perhaps we can put it back into the "reception" section, and put a small paragraph explaining that the ethics of the show are criticised as being low. dposse 14:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genre: dramedy, drama, medical drama?

Would someone like to weigh in here on what the genre should be? A week ago, it was Drama. Now, it's dramedy. Should it stay the way it is, or change it? dposse 19:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I think Medical Drama is a subcat of Drama, so put it in Medical Drama to cover both. Sockatume 07:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, done. dposse 14:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, it's definitely a medical drama, but is disputedly a comedy because of House's wisecracks, as well as some minor gags. Would it be appropriately to call it a medical dramedy? -KLink/NiN10col/Neotendo123 00:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Definately Medical Dramedy. I can usually laugh at while actually feeling involved. Stereocaster 05:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I hate the term 'dramedy'. It's a Medical Drama - dramas don't have to be entirely serious. Iorek85 06:08, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Put it this way: the focus isn't the comedy. It's the medicine and the drama. It's a medical drama. The comedy is a less pervasive element. Callandor 04:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with everyone saying that drama doesn't mean that it can't be funny. The oldest dramas and tragedies still had comic relief, consider Shakespeare. Medical drama is an apt and appropriate discussion. Shawn 12:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Balls and Yo-Yo's

I'm not exactly sure, but aside from the video games, he also plays with a bouncy ball with his cane. he catches it and bounces it off the wall, and in more than one episode he's had the Yo-Yo. I went ahead and added them. Stereocaster 05:24, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

That's a thinking tool for House. He uses the bouncing ball to give him something to concentrate on when trying to find the answer to the puzzle. dposse 01:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] House, M.D.

The name of the series is "House". At one time it was also referred to as "House, M.D." However this is no longer the case. Just because there is some text identifying that the character is an M.D., does not qualify it as part of the title. No official sources (press releases, awards-which are submitted by Fox, the website, etc.) refer to the show as "House, M.D." Therefore, it was originally referred to by that, but is no longer. Therefore, it is in error to refer to the show by that title. --Billywhack 10:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

So why can't it just say "House, originally referred to as House, M.D." That way there is no condemnation for those who are wrong and still states that calling it that was correct. Gdo01 10:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
I actually have no problem with that, but I am betting that somebody changes it again. It's happened several times now. I don't consider it condemnation but everything I wrote was still correct from an NPOV. If it makes everybody feel better, then it should be left as "House, originally referred to as House, M.D." --Billywhack 10:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Makes perfect sense. I'm only objecting to the 'erroneously' and the constant reverting (much the same as with the whole stacey wife/girlfriend thing). Also seemed a simple compromise since it was 'also' referred to as House, M.D. Though I'll point out that the Season One DVD I own states on the box "House, M.D", and Season Two also calls it "House, M.D" here. Maybe it still is? Iorek85 01:47, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Just to throw in an extra bit of info, there's a downloadable pdf of the script for Occam's Razor (season 1, ep 3, I believe) here. And not an M.D. in sight.--Nalvage 02:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it's referred to as "House, MD" frequently enough in TV guides and such for it to be included as an "Also referred to as..." or possibly "(also referred to as...)". Sockatume 03:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree that using the word "also" makes sense in this case. Rray 03:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Agreed Dlong 06:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture Vandalization

It looks to me like the picture of House on the page has been vandalized, since instead of a mild stubble he has a beard, a Santa beard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.109.197.104 (talk) 05:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

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