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Talk:Horror film/Archive1 - 23 feb 2006

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[edit] Freddy and Jason: A new template

After looking at the two templates for the A Nightmare on Elm Street (series) and Friday the 13th (film series), I created a new template, Template:FreddyJason which I asked for a peer review. Please go over and take a look. I won't be putting this template into any articles unless I see some positive reception. So far the comments have been negative, and it is getting disheartening when suggestions and creations seem to be considered worthless.

This will be cross-posted to both series talk pages as well.

Lady Aleena | Talk 20:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Interesting idea, but too much detail for a template, I think. --Myles Long/cDc 20:54, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
no need for this. at all. a combined template just because of one crossover film? no.
Okay, I get the picture. I will stay away from creating anything in the future as well since it seems that my ideas all seem to be disliked. I will try to get that template deleted. Lady Aleena | Talk 22:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Section Suggestions

Please comment on these suggestions. The list is still being built for First Films which will hopefully be comprehensive.

[edit] First Films

Here is a short list of first films in the various series. Before adding them how many were missed? This new catagory would be a great addition for those who may be looking for a new series to watch which the user may not have heard of before.

There was a list of films here, however, to keep the page brief, they have been editted out by the author of the list. The first films can be found on the List of horror films by a special note next to the movie title in angle brackets.

[edit] Horrific Locals

How about a section on the locations where these films take place? Which state in the USA has the highest rate of horror in it? Could it be Maine where Stephen King bases almost all of his novels? It could also be Illinois since most of the Halloween movies, Children of the Corn III, Damien: Omen II, Candyman, and maybe others take place there

[edit] Comments

  • the list of films belongs in List of horror films if its not already there.
    • Should a new heading be started on that page for this list, or should this idea be dropped? Lady Aleena | Talk 17:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
      • they should be added into the existing list with a note in brackets indicating they were the first in a series.
        • As you have suggested, <First film in a series of X> is placed by the films which begin series. There were more than on the list above, but I am sure that I did not get all of them. A few movies were found which were not on that list and were added.
  • the location info is trivial. not encyclopedic.
    • Wikipedia has articles on Tin-foil hats and Toilet roll holders. Trivial things sometimes mean the most. However, the section will not be created unless positive responses are made. Lady Aleena | Talk 17:35, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
      • Location info could be interesting if you could find some referenced info on why some specific locations tend to be chosen more often etc. I mean it would be nice if it would not contain just statistics AdamSmithee 08:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
        • AdamSmithee - I gave this some serious thought and have come to the conclusion that the original responder was correct. Instead of just making up another list, films could be categorized by location. An example category would be Category:Films based in Maine and IT would be listed in that category. The categorires could be used as the lists instead of making a new list page. All list pages could be turned into categories. Category:1999 films could have the subcategories 1999 horror films, 1999 science fiction films, 1999 fantasy flims, etc. That would make it easier for people to find like films without having to search for a list. The list pages then can become redirects to the categories. This is just a thought for now. Lady Aleena | Talk 22:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
          • It seems that I misunderstood the proposal. I thought that you want to start a section (with text, not list) in the Horror film article. That section would explain why should anyone care about the location (if there is any reason). That seemed interesting based on the fact that this was a featured article candidate and it failed because it is all history and lists and not enough text on relevant aspects. However, what you want might also work, it's only that it is less interesting for me. I don't really know about categories instead of lists, but it seems that lists do have their advantages over categories: can be watched for changes, have a history of modifications and allow text comments next to the entries. AdamSmithee 07:52, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
            • Funny thought just struck me, Jason Takes Hawaii. :) I don't know any horror films in Hawaii. Lady Aleena | Talk 10:07, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

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Lady Aleena 02:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horror in music

http://zlotemysli.pl/?c=4main&idEbook=141 Horror and Art: Horror in Music/Musicology - e-book!

[edit] In Polish:

Mamy pytanie: Jeśli Wikipedia jest w istotnie "wolną encyklopedią", to dlaczego blokowane są istotne z punktu widzenie danego hasła informacje - w istocie swej - "wolne" (tzn. adresowane do wszystkich) ? Jeśli ukazała się pierwsza w Polsce (i chyba - tego nie wiem na pewno - na świecie) publikacja zwarta na temat horroru w muzyce, to dlaczego fakt ten nie ma być odnotowany jako "encyklopedyczny" właśnie? Nie rozumiem tego, sorry!!


Link do informacji "groza w muzyce": http://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&q=%22grozy+w+muzyce%22&lr=lang_pl

[edit] External links

I just removed most of the external links from this article. As the template said, some of them were blatantly commercial. Other were just links to articles, which isn't *bad* as such, but unless they happen to be useful, verifiable sources for material in the article (and if so, they should be ref'ed properly), I really don't see much point in them being linked here. At the very least, the article is now rid of the spam template, and anyone wanting to add a link back should have to justify why it should be included. - Motor (talk) 12:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


Hello Motor,

I appreciate your work here even though I was disappointed to see that the links which I added were removed. After reading the policies here, I discovered that, as owner of the site, I should have first suggested the links for inclusion. So, my apologies for that.

Sure, I have some Google ads up to try to help me recover the cost of keeping my site going since I'm just one horror fan trying to maintain the site. But my site is certainly no more "commercial" than the last remaining external link, imdb.com, which sells huge volumes of products from their site, not to mention their advertising sales, all to make a profit for its parent company Amazon.com (which, of course, is itself another huge commercial enterprise).

The Top 100 Best Scary Movies page is updated from input received from my site's growing visitor base. Besides just being a list, it also provides useful and "spoiler-free" info to help fellow fright fans decide whether or not a particular movie it's one they'd want to invest their time in watching.

If nothing else, my site's horror movie Q&A page provides a service to horror fans at no charge to them. There's a growing number of happy horror fans who have found the horror movie they were seeking due to that page.

So, I hope you will please reconsider these links:

Horror Movie Q&A

A List of Popular Scary Movies

--Horror fan 03:28, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horror films subgenres

  • I would like to suggest that a section on horror film subgenres be added, explaining each subgenre and giving examples. Subgenres could include comments on slasher flicks, zombie movies, psychological horror, adaptations of horror fiction, Japanese New Horror, Italian gore, and so forth. - CNichols 18:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
  • As a seperate comment, I like the idea about horror locations, but I don't think it belongs here in horror films. I've been thinking about creating article on Fictional haunted sites, covering both films and literature. Would that work? - CNichols 18:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
A section on horror film subgenres would obviously be a great idea. I think that nobody really started it because nobody is sure what to put in. If you have an idea, maybe you could start the section AdamSmithee 23:32, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

most subgenres have their own articles, and most of them are already linked from this article. those articles should be expanded though. Zzzzz 23:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The thing is that this was a featured article candidate. It failed mostly because it is almost only about horror history. So a section on subgenres would be welcome (of course giving some notion of each subgenre and linking to the main specific article for detailed info) AdamSmithee 00:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

There are quite a lot of horror subgenres, perhaps a list of them should be developed on the talk page first before adding them to the article. There may be some way of classifying subgenres, organizing them. Not all of them have articles, Yuppie horror, for instance. Шизомби 05:06, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Following the preceeding advice, here are my suggestions for subgenres to include:

Any other suggestions? I can give examples of each genre if needed. - CNichols 22:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] list of fictional killers

i was wondering if there is a list of fictional killers anywhere. i'd like to see one. i feel this page focuses more on "supernatural horror" ... ghosts, zombies, things like that. there are so many famous ficticious serial killers. i'd like to see their names in a list.

list of horror film killers

awesome! Rocketqueen 13:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fantasy-Horror

Could or should we have an article on this, or do the majority of horrors have an element of fantasy? Arniep 10:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Comes to think of it Sci-fi horror might be worthy of an article too. Arniep 10:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blair Witch

"The Blair Witch Project attempted straight-ahead scares. But even then, the horror was accomplished in the ironic context of a mockumentary, or mock-documentary". i don't see what's ironic about this. and even if it's meant as some part of the meaningless literary sense of the word, that is nothing to do with the type of irony that was being discussed in the article (i would also argue that being self-aware doesn't constitute irony anyway, but that's a losing battle), so it's not much of an "even then". blair witch seemed to me like a fairly straight-forward movie with a clever gimmick. --dan 15:26, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Re-Review and In-line citations

Note: This article has a small number of in-line citations for an article of its size and subject content. Currently it would not pass criteria 2b.
Members of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles are in the process of doing a re-review of current Good Article listings to ensure compliance with the standards of the Good Article Criteria. (Discussion of the changes and re-review can be found here). A significant change to the GA criteria is the mandatory use of some sort of in-line citation (In accordance to WP:CITE) to be used in order for an article to pass the verification and reference criteria. It is recommended that the article's editors take a look at the inclusion of in-line citations as well as how the article stacks up against the rest of the Good Article criteria. GA reviewers will give you at least a week's time from the date of this notice to work on the in-line citations before doing a full re-review and deciding if the article still merits being considered a Good Article or would need to be de-listed. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us on the Good Article project talk page or you may contact me personally. On behalf of the Good Articles Project, I want to thank you for all the time and effort that you have put into working on this article and improving the overall quality of the Wikipedia project. Agne 04:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reasons for GA Delisting

This article's GA status has been revoked because it fails criterion 2. b. of 'What is a Good Article?', which states;

(b) the citation of its sources using inline citations is required (this criterion is disputed by editors on Physics and Mathematics pages who have proposed a subject-specific guideline on citation, as well as some other editors — see talk page).

LuciferMorgan 21:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion for the notable actors list

Also mentioning (one or a few of the most notable) horror films they've been in could be useful. Like this maybe:

Name Film(s)
Anthony Hopkins Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal
Ralph Bates Hammer Horror productions
Doug Bradley Hellraiser series
Bruce Campbell Evil Dead series

qwm 19:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

And of course this idea works for directors and studios as well. :) qwm 19:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

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