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[edit] Crime in Honduras
I find it odd that Mexico has an article on Crime, yet there is a lack there of for Honduras. I added a little crime blurb in the trivia, but I do think it is important to expand on the subject. Here is an acknowledged source for one to use in creating a section on crime (if desired), http://www.usaid.gov/locations/latin_america_caribbean/democracy/gangs_assessment.pdf . Let me know what you guys think. David -- (13:01)
[edit] Demography
Race is not an issue in Honduras, blacks, whites, mestizo, and many others share the same country without the hatred you can find in other regions of the world. I disagree. Please can you give a source for this claim. Unfortunately my experience is that there is rascism, both towards white foreigners and towards black people, albeit from a small minority, SqueakBox June 28, 2005 18:02 (UTC)
Yes--That appears to be a rediculous claim to make.
[edit] New map?
We had an edit war over whether it should be Kelisi or Cantus' maps that should be here. Look at them both and bring your vote here. --SqueakBox 01:50, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Caribbean Wikipedians' notice board
I would like to announce the establishment of the Wikipedia:Caribbean Wikipedians' notice board. Anyone with an interest in the Caribbean is welcome to join in. chicken Guettarda 1 July 2005 04:05 (UTC)
[edit] Politics
This seems very un-objectively written - I think less judgemental language should be used.
Unfortunately, Honduran politics are plagued with over-marketed political campaigns, unclear political positions, lack of measurable goals, and a lack of understanding from a majority of the population on the importance of democracy and the election process. In 2004, Honduran democracy made a quantum leap towards a more democractic society when separate ballots were used for mayors, congress, and president. Many more candidates were registered for 2005's election, and people had more chances to elect their local government. Even though many resources were invested providing an improved democratic process, we've seen this effort vanished when politicians scratched the names of already elected individuals to nominate their own who were not freely elected.
I just added a section NPOV template because of the above, and then saw that it was already mentioned on this talk page. I'm not qualified, but I hope someone will help fix this soon. -brbigam
[edit] United Provinces of Central America
I don't understand why the date of indpendence in all Central American countries is 15 september, 1821. In reality, all Central America became part of the Mexican Empire, and it wasn't until this empire was dissolved in 1822-1823 that Central America decided to become an independent country, called United Provinces of Central America. In fact, Chiapas, originally part of Central America, decided to remain as a Mexican state by referendum. --J.Alonso 03:40, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
The reason is because that is the date of independence from Europe and Spain. From that point on they were Latin Americans ruling Latin Americans, SqueakBox 03:43, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] History
The history section of this article seems to jump around from topic to topic and it does not seem to flow very well. --Jorobeq 00:50, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
agreed.
- anyone know where the sentence about the xukpi kingdom comes from? I've been working on the archaeology in Honduras for 26 years and never heard this. I'd like to see a source, please. Also, this section is full of sentence fragments.
[edit] Dog fighting
I have heard that Dog fighting is legal in Honduras, can someone here confirm or deny this and if you have some webpages that support your statement I would be obliged. I will use in them to update the Dog fighting article. Thank you SirIsaacBrock 18:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tourism/Ecotourism in Honduras
Every time I try to put this in any search engine it always
brings me to vacation and traveling websites. I need the facts, not the traveling information. Could someone find a good link for Tourism/Ecotourism in countries? Stuff about the percent of GDP it is and how many people relatively go...? Factual info please. I need lots of info... this
[edit] Where did the name come from?
I have always wanted to know the origin on the countries name, Honduras.
Hondo means deep in Spanish and apparently Columbus described the waters off Trujillo as being "muy hondo", ie they were deep waters. I was just thinking about the name the other day and what a beautiful name it is, and of course pronounced very differently in Spanish where the H is silent. Ras Billy I 14:04, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The name "Honduras" is attributed to the Christopher Columbus expressing his thanks to God for having survived a storm of the coast of that country, he said "Gracias a Dios que hemos salido de estas 'honduras'" [depths or abyss]. So the name of the area where the Rio Coco comes to the ocean is now "Gracias a Dios" and the name of the country is "Honduras."
- Do we have a reliable source for the above information? It really seems like it should be mentioned in the History section, or possibly even parenthetically in the introduction. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:52, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
The original name, in the colonial period, of the territory that today is Honduras was "honduras y higueras" Higueras comes from the name of a tree known as Higueras or Jicara which has a gourd-like fruit (used to make maracas, food bowls, carved, etc) that was quite common in the country. I've certainly heard the quote attributed to Columbus (attributed because the originals of all his ships logs are lost, and all the records we have are from other people who say they are sumarizing what was in his logs) as the origin.
[edit] Time Zone
Somebody reverted the correct information that Hondiras is currently in the time zone UTC-5. Honduras is right now at UTC-5, please dont insert incorrect information into this article without checking first as such inaccuracies weaken the wikipedia. Ras Billy I 05:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Hondurans
The term "Honduranian" does not exist. The correct term is Honduran. Dianahdez 6 July 2006
Not true. This term is used extensively by Honduranian people. To claim as you do is a cultural imposition. El Rojo 21:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
What are you talking about, I have never heard ANY Honduran say the word Honduranian in English or in Spanish. I'm Honduran, believe me, no one says that. Jorobeq 01:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Believe me in Honduras people do say it. I have heard the term too often to be confused on this one. Accordingh to info in your user page I have spent considerably more time in Honduras than your good self, maybe it is a North coast thing but it is a real term really used. El Rojo 01:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Regardless of the time I have spent there, I have been surrounded by people who were born and raised in San Pedro Sula.Jorobeq 01:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
A Google search shows it to be an unusual but definitely existent term. The people who I have heard use it all obviously speak English and do so because they have spent considerable time in the US but are equally clearly Hondurans. Curious, its clearly a translation of the word Hondureňo. All the Google searches that use the word come form the North Coast, making me think it is particular to this coastal region and perhaps hasn't really spread as far as San Pedro. El Rojo 01:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Very possibleJorobeq 02:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] History - Soccer War
"El Salvador met Honduras for a 3-round football elimination match as a preliminary to the World Cup. Honduras won in the game taking place in San Salvador. It lasted approximately 100 hours and led to an arms race between the two countries." This is unclear and incorrect. According to other sources including Wikipedia's own article on "Soccer War", El Salvador won the game in El Salvador 3-0 and went on to win the third game in Mexico City. Also, instead of saying "It lasted...", the sentence should read "The war lasted...". This sounds better since it doesn't make it seem like the soccer game lasted 100 hours.
[edit] Gap in history
Between Spanish independence in 1838 and the Soccer War of 1969, there's nothing noted. For some reason, they decided to name a school after Franklin Roosevelt. What did Honduras do in World War II? Xaxafrad 18:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
None of Latin America got involved in WWII as far as I am aware. Honduras had a hard man dictator in place Tiburcio Carías Andino who was an ally of the US, SqueakBox 19:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I think they formally declared war against germany (couldve been WWI) but i dunno if they actually DID anything Jorobeq 05:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
