User talk:Homefryes

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Contents 1 Ohio Route signs 2 Image Help Needed 3 How to make SVGs 4 PA Shields 5 Re: PA 18 6 Commons 7 Final state highway naming conventions debate 8 Junction table 9 Reply to User talk:Seicer 10 WI Highways Userbox 11 Highways Userbox 12 Ohio Shields 13 Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll/Part1 14 Ohio State Highway 17 15 Transclusion 16 Thanks! 17 Amstutz Expressway 18 Re: SRNC Poll/Adjudication 19 Exit list guide 20 Redirects 21 Thanks Homefryes 22 Re: Question on Ohio State Route 550 23 U.S. Covered Bridge Template 24 Thanks

[edit] Ohio Route signs

If you want to request images for the Ohio route signs, you can go to Wikipedia:Requested images and put up a request there. If you want to make them yourself, there is a roadgeek fonts package here [1]. It contains fonts for the numbers and letters used on most signs in the U.S. -- Grev 06:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Help Needed

I've uploaded some images, but obviously need help. Here is a list of what I've done:

17:16, 13 July 2006 (hist) (diff) Image:Ohio State Highway 82.png
17:13, 13 July 2006 (hist) (diff) Image:Ohio State Highway 82.svg (Ohio State Highway 82 Shield created by --Homefryes 18:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)) (top)
15:54, 13 July 2006 (hist) (diff) Image:600px-Ohio State Highway 82.png (top)
15:51, 13 July 2006 (hist) (diff) Image:600px-Ohio State Highway 82.png (Ohio State Highway 82 Shield, created by me. --Homefryes 18:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC))

The second item has the proper naming convention, and upon completion was already linked to 3 existing pages; however, the file isn't working. I'm having difficulty creating .svg files. This and the other files can be deleted, and I will mark them as such when I have figured out what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks!!

Don

The svg files you created are incorrect. They actually just ask for the png image to be displayed, and try to look on the hard disk for them (that's my they don't work in Wikipedia). I guessed this when I looked at the svg in notepad and saw "F:\2006 Route Signs\Ohio\600px-Ohio_State_Highway_82.png" - that's the file it's looking for. I'm not sure how to make real svg's, or if Inkscape can truly convert png to svg. To get the incorrect files deleted, place {{db|I am the author, this image can be deleted because it is incorrect}} on the image description page.--Commander Keane 02:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I put up small articles on certain Ohio state highways (287 365, 366, 368, 508, 533, 540, 638, and 708), but none of them had signs, and my computer doesn't have software to create .svg files. Therefore, the only picture I put up was a .png of the 638 sign. Help requested for pictures! Thanks :-) Nyttend 05:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've seen some of the debate about state highways/State Highways/state routes :-) I wasn't aware, however, that an overhaul was being done. I wasn't planning to be adding articles on other highways; I guess that's good :-) Thanks! Nyttend 13:42, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to make SVGs

Yes, they have to be remade. You can't just import an image and that makes it an SVG. Take Image:PA_28.svg and delete the numbers, add a new text object of the correct font (Roadgeek Series D) and type the number in it. Then hit Ctrl-Shift-C; this makes the text into a vector so it will render correctly. Then upload.

I recommend saving a copy of the image with the big 28 deleted and with a non-vectored text object in place. You can then use this as a template. Hope this helps. —Scott5114↗ 19:52, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PA Shields

Hello, I noticed that you've made a number of PA SVG shields. Could you upload these to Wikimedia Commons as well (as having them all on the Commons helps me to keep track of what shields exist via the PA route shields category on the Commons. Thanks. --TMF ^{T - C} 15:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure, I'd be happy to, but I'm not quite certain I know how to do that. --Homefryes 15:34, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

To start, visit the Commons home page. Then, register an account on the Commons and, after that's done, you can click "Upload file" on the left side of the screen to upload the shields. For the summary/description, you can use the info that I used for my shields as a template. --TMF ^{T - C} 15:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Great. I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 to upload, so it will take a little while for me to get them up. Watch for them in the next couple days. Homefryes 16:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: PA 18

The best way that I can explain this is to direct you to WP:PASH, where the project standards are located. The structure section will explain the accepted formatting for all PA state route articles. See Pennsylvania Route 994 for a completed article.

For the large table on PA 18, I would be in favor of maintaining it if it included only major intersections, such as with state routes, U.S. highways or Interstates (that way it could be placed in the Major Intersections section). --TMF ^{T - C} 17:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commons

Would you mind moving your directional and trailblazer plates to Commons, so they can show up all together in Category:Diagrams of road signs of the United States? You can get the images deleted from Wikipedia by adding {{NowCommonsThis}} to the image description (warning: may take months for image to be deleted).

Also, the directional plates look off to me - I believe the smaller letters need to be smaller still. Compare to Image:Ok74.jpg, for example. —Scott5114↗ 04:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. As for the sizing of the letters, you may be right for OK's standards. Here in IL, they don't even use the larger first letter design -- all letters are the same size. But I made the plates to the specs found at [2] (I will fix this link in description section on my images, as I see it's incorrect). Homefryes 13:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Final state highway naming conventions debate

Homefryes, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8.

Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Junction table

There should be a way to incorporate the existing template to use a format similar to that of the proposed exit list while maintaining the shading. I'll try working on some code in my Sandbox tonight and, if it works, I'll use it in the main PAint template.

I'll see what I can do regarding waterways as well. --TMF ^{T - C} 22:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, the new junction table is available to preview. Check out my Sandbox for the table and the code to see if it is to your liking. Comments/suggestions are welcome. --TMF ^{T - C} 23:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Yep, all of the type shading works perfectly, so I'll incorporate it into the actual template in a bit. Also, if you need any help with the coding for an Ohio table, let me know.

The only drawback to the new coding is that it will wreak havoc on the existing articles that use the junction table as the two formats are incompatible. Fortunately, there's only a handful of articles that currently use the table, so it shouldn't be a problem. --TMF ^{T - C} 15:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

IMHO, waterway junctions are perfectly fine (and encouraged!) for the route description, but not for a list of intersections, which is what the junction table is intended to be. --TMF ^{T - C} 15:53, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

The new PA template coding is in place, so when you get a chance, you can update them to the new format. Also, the exit list looks good to me. --TMF ^{T - C} 14:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The person to talk to in order to change the abbreviation for Ohio would be SPUI. Also, when you're ready for the junction table, let me know. --TMF ^{T - C} 17:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Of course that can be changed - but please don't. [3][4] --SPUI (T - C) 20:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not "evidence that both OH and SR are used" - it's evidence that OH is almost never used. We should use common names, not neologisms. --SPUI (T - C) 20:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

What do you think it is? Please think for yourself; that is one of the requirements for a true consensus. I'll look at the other proposals and see if I have an opinion. --SPUI (T - C) 20:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to User talk:Seicer

I'm sort of confused here, and I think its because I just got back from a long trip and haven't caught up on everything. I replied to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ohio State Highways, where I stated I don't have a problem with customizing the route box as long as it doesn't become too long. A seperate junction list, outside of the infobox under its own heading (==Junction list==) would work with a bigger table that is more customizable. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 18:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WI Highways Userbox

I made an update to your userpage to change the Wisconsin Highways Userbox - you can now choose your highway marker number. --master_son^{Lets talk} 20:21, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highways Userbox

fortunately only 4 users had this box - that made it easy to go in and change them. Other ones may not be so easy - esp the Interstate and U.S. Highway ones. I'll see what can be done. --master_son^{Lets talk} 20:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I apologize for intruding, but after I saw this idea, I had to experiment with the coding for the Interstate project userbox (as I believe that this is a great idea as well). See User:TwinsMetsFan/Sandbox2 for the coding and User:TwinsMetsFan/Sandbox for the result. What I did is I added an optional entry in the userbox code that will overwrite the default number (90) with a user-defined number (I used 81 to show the functionality). If no number is specified, then they will get the I-90 shield. This approach should work for virtually every highway userbox. Regards, TMF ^{T - C} 22:09, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I just added the capability to change the route shield for the Pennsylvania userbox. I'll add it to the Interstate and U.S. highway boxes in a bit. --TMF ^{T - C} 23:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Interstate userbox now has the shield-changing capability. As far as I know, there was no userbox for the U.S. highway project, so I made one (with the shield-changing capability, of course) =). --TMF ^{T - C} 23:23, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Ohio userbox now has the shield-changing capability as well. --TMF ^{T - C} 23:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

The Illinois userbox now has it as well. --master_son^{Lets talk} 02:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ohio Shields

I fixed the coding for Infobox road myself to point to the new shields, so it should be good to go. --TMF ^{T - C} 18:28, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

{{OHShield}} now links to the new shields. Also, the Ohio junction table templates have all been made and are ready to go. For the usage instructions, you can copy the instructions from WP:PASH, as the usage is the same (substituting "OH" for "PA" and "Ohio" for "Pennsylvania", of course). One note: for the state road shortcut template ({{OHint/OH}}), the link will appear as SR X to match the infobox. But otherwise, everything else is the same.

This is really no trouble at all; I'm happy to help out a fellow Wikipedian. After all, that's what a community is about. =) --TMF ^{T - C} 04:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll/Part1

You recently "voted" for option 1, and are listed as being part of the WikiProject Pennsylvania State Highways. Are you aware that option 2 does not preclude the use of "Pennsylvania Route X"? --SPUI (T - C) 01:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ohio State Highway 17

I saw SR 21 from my source, but you're free to change it. Hello32020 16:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transclusion

Replace the Ohio header with {{Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll/Part2/OH}}. Tehn add the same code to the bottom of WT:OHSH. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 18:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

It was done properly, but it's a bit wordy (imagine if that's what we used for all 50 states?) I've condensed it a bit. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

If it was up to me, I would say leave it. But since I myself have been accused of wrongdoing at WP:ANI for the slightest things (why Principle I was located first, even though I was not in control over that) I think it needs to be removed. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for your kind words! I just needed a couple of days to relax, unwind and truly enjoy the Labor Day holiday, so I should be good to go now. Thanks again! --TMF ^{T - C} 16:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Amstutz Expressway

Generally I don't have time to leave any comments if I'm on a roll, but among items that exist that are currently missing:

• Photos
• Sections, specifically the History section, involving planning of the highway, ROW acquisition, timing, ground break, and a mention of the failure of the Chicago-to-Milwaukee freeway this was supposed to be a part of, and the numerous proposals since that have tried to get rid of it but failed
• Exit list
• Traffic volumes

I'd put those on there, but I've driven it one time, so I don't remember any of the exits. —Rob (talk) 13:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: SRNC Poll/Adjudication

Yes, you're absolutely right. I was referring to 161 and 611. I created the list by looking only at the category page, and was not aware that State Route 161 (Ohio) was merely a poorly constructed redirect page. State Route 611 (Ohio) is in fact a full article at that title. I've edited my comment on WT:SRNC to reflect that there is actually only one. -- NORTH ^talk 20:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Exit list guide

Hello, Homefryes. Since you have commented on the design of exit lists in the past, you may be interested in contributing to the newly-formed exit list guide. Please give your input regarding the page as soon as possible.

Regards, TMF ^{T - C} 22:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

I don't think they're a problem, as redirects don't cause problems... unless there's unreasonable ones in there. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 00:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks Homefryes

Thanks in part in improving some of my recent article additions. We sort of make a one-two punch with the Ohio State Highways project. Spongefan, 1:52 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Question on Ohio State Route 550

Whoops, it's not a state park, but a state forest. On the map, it says it's a state forest, not a state park. Thanks for clarifying that with me. My mistake. Spongefan 15:16, November 5 2006 (UTC)

Man I feel a little crazy. My eyes are fooling me and I'm not old yet! Spongefan 15:27, November 5 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Covered Bridge Template

The covered bridge template that I made has some problems, but I havn't had the time to work on it. The WGCB is perhaps a great idea. But I also think it is missing important information. Take a look at Pennsylvania Railroad Bridge (Columbia, Pennsylvania) for a table showing some of the things that might be good to use. -- RM 19:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I got your message on this topic. Just let me know what you are looking to do. What I've seen doesn't sound too difficult. Seems almost like the 'covered bridge' and 'bridge' templates could be merged into one by adding a few more optional parameters, but can set it up however makes sense. --CBD 12:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the props. Glad you enjoy the site. It's been quite a learning experience about the State of Ohio...not just about the roads, but also about various places around the Buckeye State. I'm happy to be able to present this information. I look forward to chipping in my $0.02 where I can. I am, in fact, just about to announce an Ohio Ends update in the next several minutes, so I can help to update some links. Thanks again.

DanTheMan474 19:00, 24 November 2006 (UTC)