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[edit] Distance learning?
Which ancillary staff member used this method? The textual basis for this statement should be specified or it should be removed. savidan(talk) (e@) 20:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry - missed the question here. Answered on in the article yesterday. In Chamber of Secrets (ch. 8), Harry discovers Argus Filch the Caretaker was attempting to study KWIKSPELL - A Correspondence Course in Beginners' Magic. --T-dot 01:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Link to Hogwarts layout
Shouldn't there be a link to Hogwarts layout somewhere within the article? 70.50.174.238 14:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- THANK YOU - I was just trying to find that other Hogwarts article yesterday to link a classroom to an article. Consider it Done. --T-dot 15:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] British spelling
The rest of Wikipedia consistently uses the American spealling, so why are we suddenly using the British spelling here? E946 16:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not consistently use American English. Wikipedia has clearly stated guidelines on which styles of English should be used within the Manual of style. Therefore as Harry Potter is set in Britain written by a British author and originally published in Britain, the appropriate language style for Harry Potter articles is British English. Hope that helped, regards. Death Eater Dan (Muahaha) 17:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
- Though my dictionary says that "enrolment" is a British spelling of "enrollment," I asked two British friends who both said it was "enrollment," so case closed. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- ROFL, whilst I'm not really bothered over the enrolment/enrollment issue I find it very funny that on the say so of 2 'experts' that it is case closed. I'm sure that all the compilers of British dictionaries will be most agrieved to know that they are all wrong, according to 2 British friends, i'll look for thier corrected entries in the next editions. Death Eater Dan (Muahaha) 22:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Haha, I'm reading that back and feeling a bit stupid right now… what I tried to say but failed rather amusingly was that "enrolment" was listed as a British spelling of "enrollment." To find out which usage was more common, I asked around some Brits I know and they opted for double Ls. Dictionaries don't always go with the popular vote, they list all the possibilities. So… seems like the anon who was persisiting in it has gone away anyway, so what the hell. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 01:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Lol no probs, must admit it made me giggle. But like I said i'm not overly bothered by the enrolment/enrollment issue because as far as British/American spelling issues go its a very minor one due to both versions being in general use here in Britain. Death Eater Dan (Muahaha) 01:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Haha, I'm reading that back and feeling a bit stupid right now… what I tried to say but failed rather amusingly was that "enrolment" was listed as a British spelling of "enrollment." To find out which usage was more common, I asked around some Brits I know and they opted for double Ls. Dictionaries don't always go with the popular vote, they list all the possibilities. So… seems like the anon who was persisiting in it has gone away anyway, so what the hell. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 01:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- ROFL, whilst I'm not really bothered over the enrolment/enrollment issue I find it very funny that on the say so of 2 'experts' that it is case closed. I'm sure that all the compilers of British dictionaries will be most agrieved to know that they are all wrong, according to 2 British friends, i'll look for thier corrected entries in the next editions. Death Eater Dan (Muahaha) 22:52, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Though my dictionary says that "enrolment" is a British spelling of "enrollment," I asked two British friends who both said it was "enrollment," so case closed. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
We should at least be consistent. If "enrollment" has been decided upon, I'm changing it in the info box to match. 70.53.0.122 16:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rewrite
After seeing the disorganized state of the current article, I decided that it would be a good idea to completely rewrite this article. I set up a user subpage to edit behind the scenes. i'm more or less done, and I want to make sure nobody has a problem with it before I make the change (Which is why I put in the template)
There's only a few issues right now, including:
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- Bad layout and grounds section
The new article can be found here. Please make any changes you want. In a week, I'll copy everything over to this article if nobody has any major objections.
E946 08:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- E946, if you don't mind, I'm going to make a few changes to your draft. You can of course revert or change them as you like, they're just things which were recently added to the article which are not present. Good work! --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 13:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Something to consider rewriting this article: I think that Wikipedia policy only allows one screenshot on a page, but the draft currently has 3. I haven't seen this anywhere except as a note above the screenshots section under "licensing" on the upload page, and I'm not sure if this is a matter of copyright or of style. Also, I added a link to the WikiProject talk page to alert the community. Should the rewriting be noted anywhere else? -Phi*n!x 02:54, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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- I've never heard that, actually. I just saw a good picture of the sorting hat in another article so I added it. Where can we go to ask if it's okay? E946 05:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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- The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe has at least five screenshots or so. I don't know, though, if it's closely monitored. I think, if you go by the reasoning that it's to help illustrate the topic in question, it's considered fair use. The Sorting Hat, then, is fine, because you want to illustrate the Sorting ceremony. To ask, you should probably try the Village pump (technical). --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 13:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- You can to User talk:QuarterZ#Images. This user wanted User:AndyZ to upload an image of Snape (He didn't know how to at a time) and Andy didn't want to because there were to many screenshots there. Another one is the history of Ron Weasley where User:T-dot removed screenshots so there was very little and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (film). Any articles having 2 or more screenshots; one needs to be removed. You can see WP:FUC for the violation rule. Carmelapple 14:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe has at least five screenshots or so. I don't know, though, if it's closely monitored. I think, if you go by the reasoning that it's to help illustrate the topic in question, it's considered fair use. The Sorting Hat, then, is fine, because you want to illustrate the Sorting ceremony. To ask, you should probably try the Village pump (technical). --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 13:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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- From what I see, WP:FUC doesn't specifically say that there should be only one screenshot, but that unfree images should be as limited as possible (rule #3). I agree that the ways the images are being used on the Hogwarts draft are fine and legal, but I am curious if we can figure out what's up with the policy. (On a side note, the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe page has eight screenshots and I have suggested on its talk page that this be changed.) Also, I have posted this before on this talk page: wouldn't a Hogwarts blazon be an appropriate image for the article? I'll scan one from a Bloomsbury edition if I can get help with the fair use rationale. -Phi*n!x 17:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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- It's pretty much impossible to describe the blazon without a picture, you're not stopping them from selling any books, and you're not making a profit. There's your fair use. E946 09:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
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If nobody else has any problems with this, then i'll just change it over when I wake up later today. E946 09:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- I really hate people who archive things which are eseentially active discussions, so I have restored the last section which had been archived. Sandpiper 17:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Other Schools
Out of curiosity, where does JKR say that the Salem witches institute is a school. The only hint we get from the books implies the Salem WI is exactly that, a branch of the womens Institute. I don't know if this existsin the US, but in the Uk this is essentially a club for adult qomen, traditionly hot on cooking, household interestes, and giving politicians a bad time. Sandpiper 18:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know entirely. I thought it was some character who were mentioned in passing at the QWC. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- Rowling never says that it's a school. The only mention of it is in the chapter Bagman and Crouch in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: "...while a group of middle-aged American witches sat gossiping happily beneath a spangled banner stretched between their tents which read: Salem Witches' Institute." The HP Lexicon says that it is "possibly a school." I'd say that this isn't really enough to warrant its inclusion in this article. 67.68.139.97 00:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- I rewrote it, saying that it is only possibly a school and that it has not been confirmed as one. 70.53.0.122 16:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Rowling never says that it's a school. The only mention of it is in the chapter Bagman and Crouch in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: "...while a group of middle-aged American witches sat gossiping happily beneath a spangled banner stretched between their tents which read: Salem Witches' Institute." The HP Lexicon says that it is "possibly a school." I'd say that this isn't really enough to warrant its inclusion in this article. 67.68.139.97 00:03, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Enrollment Book
Where does it say people may appear in this book any time up to age 11? I understood it to be a magical book which records every birth when it happens, though I have no idea where information about it comes from. Sandpiper 18:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fees
I don't recall any mention of anyone paying fees to go to Hogwarts, so why do we suggest that there might be some. The only mention I recall is essentially if the school paying students, never the other way around. Sandpiper 18:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- The topic of fees is brought up because fees are paid to go to some schools. For the sake of completeness, we have to mention that nothing is known about paying to go to Hogwarts. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- then I think it needs a rephrase since my reaction was that it casts doubt on whether maybe fees are paid.
[edit] Uniforms
I looked through this article and was quite perturbed to discover that the only mention of the students' uniforms is in the items contained in the acceptance letter to Hogwarts. I also was unable to find any other article about the Hogwarts uniforms. Was this merely an oversight of mine or is there truly no Wikipedia information about this subject? If so, can that please be rectified by a knowledgeable member? 70.107.96.220 20:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- I think if you were to find anything on uniforms it'd be in this article. If you know any little bits on it, be bold and start a new section on the article, probably under "Student life," and contribute what you know. In the mean time, I'll do a little work and hope some other frequent editors of the page will do something, too. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 05:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Location used for filming?
It would be intersting to know which castle was used -- Lee Carré 08:04, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Ah, List of places in the Harry Potter_books#Muggle locations used in the Harry Potter films has some info, should be a link from this article though, perhaps also adding the box at the bottom of the page for general Harry Potter navigation. -- Lee Carré 08:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)