Talk:HMS Orpheus (1861)
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[edit] Disputes
Where there is a dispute on the facts of the case (some sources cite the death-count at 192 instead of 189; the dimensions of the ship are cited differently in the contemporary newspapers) I have treated the book Shipwreck: Tales of Survival, Courage & Calamity at Sea as authoritative.
For strictly grammatical reasons, when referring to ships of the Royal Navy, the article 'the' is not used before 'H.M.S.' The reason is to avoid grammatical error if the abbreviation is spelled out: One should not write 'the Her Majesty's Ship Orpheus,' hence 'H.M.S.' is also used without 'the.' If the ship's name is used alone without 'H.M.S.' then 'the' may be used ('the Orpheus'). In contrast, ships of other fleets may or may not use the article 'the' depending upon the title. Ships of the U.S. Navy, for example, typically use 'the' in either form (i.e. 'the' USS Consitution, also 'the' Constitution.)
- I've switched "the Orpheus" to "Orpheus" throughout, as IME it looks better, plus various other stylistic changes. Now to move the page... Shimgray 13:19, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
