Talk:HM Bark Endeavour

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Shipwreck-related priority open tasks: Contents 1 To Do 2 Done 3 Barque? 4 Lack of Information Relating to Whitby [edit] To Do Shipwrecks Clean up typos Improve Grammer Add any additions if needed Discuss disired additions Cattewater Wreck Needs expansion [edit] Done Shipwrecks Re-wrote the first paragraph Cleaned up Types of Shipwrecks it felt a bit jumbled Cattewater Wreck Started the article

[edit] Barque?

Should the correct spelling be "Barque"?

Both spellings are correct, and several links already pointed to "Bark." --the Epopt

I think the more common spelling is "barque". The article Barque refers to a US registered example the Falls of Clyde as a "barque". The US coast guard themselves refer to their own U.S. Coast Guard Barque Eagle [1]. Having said all that, HMS Endeavour does seem to be more commonly described as a "bark". - Ian ≡ talk 02:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

The English use of the French form of the word is relatively late and clearly refers to the partially fore and aft rig. It appears to have been used to distinguish the rig from the miscellaneous small vessels, at the time when the rig was beginning to be used on larger ships. The problem was that 'ship' was a rig as well as a size of vessel. Hitherto, the ship rig had gone with the bigger, decked vessel but things changed and it became necessary to express the distinctions clearly. The Oxford English Dictionary's earliest secure reference to the use of 'bark' in connection with the rig is from 1769 but this will have also have been a relatively small vessel. There is however, a 1693 reference to a barkenteen though the rig is not described.

The word's eighteenth century and earlier use by the Admiralty was a continuation of the very early meaning of the word as a large boat, particularly one for carrying goods - a barge. I think a barca is the sort of boat which takes goods around Venice, for example; but una barca a remi is an Italian rowing boat. Barge and bark are really the same word but again, they have been separated as a distinction became necessary.

The answer to the question is: in the case of Endeavour - no. (RJP 08:09, 21 July 2005 (UTC))

[edit] Lack of Information Relating to Whitby

Whitby also has had the replica of the HM Bark Endeavour visiting the town for lengthy periods. The article lacks information on this. Computerjoe's talk 15:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)