Talk:History of the United States (1964–1980)

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Shouldn't the phrase about Carter being the first elected president from the deep south since the civil war untrue? Andrew Jackson is technically from the Carolina's. And one could make a case that culturally and politcally, Texas was comparible to the deep south states during the era that LBJ and Eisenhower were elected.

Good work, Mav. Sorry that I'm a little distracted now with other projects. Just don't get carried away, esp. with the original content. 172 00:04 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks - I am very familiar with being spread too thin. :) --mav

I saw your last edit summary. It's best that the section on the Nixon administration and "stagflation" stay. It's not covered anywhere else. 172

Later tonight I'm going to restore a few points. Now, there's nothing on the elections of 1968. We just go from Johnson to Nixon with no transition. But carry on. You'll see what points I restore later on and then we can discuss them. 172 00:17 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Please just restore a summary of the election itself. Otherwise please summarize each "History of" article - I have already spent the time I had set aside to fill in some sections of History of the United States by trying to fix this article and the next in the series (which I just gave up on - there seems to be more about Reagan in that article than in his own entry...). Sigh, back to the day pages. --mav 00:52 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

172, there is a mention of the 1968 election: "Amid increasingly negative public opinion on the war, in 1968 Lyndon B. Johnson decided to not run for reelection. Robert F. Kennedy ran for the Democratic ticket but was later assassinated which set the stage for a Republican win. Republican Richard Nixon claimed to have a secret plan to end the war and he won the election. " That is enough for his level of article. Just add a link on the article about the election. --mav

I'll take a look later on, once I get some non-Wiki paperwork out of the way. I still favor an approach that goes beyond the normal outline, something that helps readers see the relations between many events. Each trend is not occurring in a vacuum, after all. 172 01:08 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Mav's edits were by and large excellent. However, I’ve corrected a few problems.

1.) Removed reference to Carter's defeat. The subsequent article deals with the election of 1980. 2.) I partially restored much of the content on 1968, which was the only section in the series really dealing with the baby boomers, the counterculture, the New Left, the assassinations of MLK and RFK, etc. 3.) Restored a couple of headings. Thanks to Mav for getting this article in shape. 172 02:54 28 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Actually, there have been some studies that show that most anti-Vietnam War people were not students but from the working class, and more "educated" people, as a whole, tended more to support the war, since it was tied up with their own economic interests. Danny

I'm very aware of those studies. But Mav (and some others) have been crucifying me for going into excessive detail. I'd like to go in depth on that. You're an academic too, and you too want real scholarship, even if it requires depth, but I've been told to write for a general audience disinterested in little details. If I don't keep it short, my head would be on a platter. 172 03:31 28 Jul 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Image:TrangBang.jpg

I don't think we can make a case for fair use for the Pulitzer Prize winning photo by Nick Ut with AP of Kim Phuc running from bombs. Ut's life was on the line and AP paid to have him there. They are entitled to whatever royalties they can get unless they have released the photo to the public domain. Further, [1] says VNAF did the bombing, not the U.S. -- ke4roh 17:46, Jul 13, 2004 (UTC)

Note that the image was deleted after full and detailed discussion on VfD. It must stay removed and should not be replace. --[[User:VampWillow|VampWillow]] 10:17, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

172 removed the above comment earlier. This is contrary to WP policy. --[[User:VampWillow|VampWillow]] 14:34, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

While 172 should not have removed your comments here, I do not see a clear consensus to delete the image on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Image:TrangBang.jpg. The vote was very evenly divided and I don't think the image should have been deleted without a clear consensus. older ≠ wiser 15:24, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Burst of Joy

Is there any room for the Burst of Joy picture on this page? I think it's rather pertinent. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 17:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)