Talk:History of the Jews in Spain
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Um, the Jewish Encyclopedia is public domain. Read the first sentence of the homepage[1]. I just started working on the article, attribution would have been coming soon in any case. Please remove copyright notice. --Goodoldpolonius2 23:16, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
24.125.22.187 04:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)I understand the source affects the viewpoint of this article. However, it is clearly biased against Christians in general and Spanish Catholics in specific. Also, the writing is awkward in several sections and there are allegations without reference support. These objections should be noted by readers of this article, which is nonetheless informative in its content. 24.125.22.187 04:38, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] From Francisco Franco
From Talk:Francisco Franco#Jews:
- I can't provide exact numbers but the last i heard (from a professor at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem at a conference at my elder daughter's highschool early this winter) it was on the order of tens of thousands. The line is also in factual error. Most of the jews saved with a spanish passport were East European jews, not french, and very few indeed even travelled to Spain. What Franco really did, was twofold. He let his diplomatic service make use of a Primo de Rivera's law, which granted spanish cityzenship to all sepharaditic jews (i'll search for it), and succesfully moved the Germans to recognize the passports thus issued. Many diplomats, with tacit consent of Madrid, extended this -mainly after 1943- to all jews. The case of the spanish consuls at Budapest (who is said to have issued IIRC at least 6000 such passes) and Viena are well publisized.
- The same law was used at least once more: after 1967, when moroccan jews were expelled after the "six day's war"
- It's possible that the overland route (thru Spain into Portugal and elsewhere) was used also by many, but, at least until 1942, it was not considered "safe", nor where uniform policies applied.
- Franco's regime attitude regarding the jews is at first approach inconsistent. Propaganda never gave up an antisemitic stance, and Franco (alone in West Europa) never recognized Israel and held and open pro-arab attitude; but on the other side, seems to have been sincere in his dissaproval of Nazi policy, and for the first time since 1492, during Franco's time a small jewish community could flourish again in Spain with no remarkable difficulties.--Wllacer 09:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- A couple of references to my former comment. The legal prextext for issuing spanish passports to sefaraditic jews is a decree of December, 20 1924[2]. A Decreto ley from December, 29 1948[3] was used to save the jewish egyptian colony after the first israely-arab war. My source about moroccan jews are personal communication from some of them. For a good first approach to the spanish charge d'affairs in Budapest see [4]
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- The basic bibliographical reference to the behaviour of Franco's regime towards Jews during WWII is Federico Ysart's España y los judíos en la Segunda Guerra. Mundial (Barcelona, 1973) ISBN 84-7235-083-5. But as the publisher is long out of business it should be hard to find. AFAIK Shlomo Ben Ami has also published some works which incidentally touch this matter--Wllacer 23:53, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Disambiguation
Some disambiguation needs to be done with the links, particularly with the links to the various kings and emperors. If I get a chance in the next couple of days, I'll take a shot at it. ArglebargleIV 03:02, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] names of villages
It's the first time I write in wikipedia, so sorry if this is not adequate. I saw the name "Alcalá de Guadeira" and I dont know if that was the name in the past, but nowadays it is "Alcalá de Guadaira", and there is already a small article about it.
Fregenal must be Fregenal de la Sierra, but there is no article yet in English.
Albunea 14:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Subsections for Moorish Spain
I broke up this section into three subsections, The Moorish Conquest, The Caliphate of Cordoba, and The Taifas, without any change to the body of the text. My goal was just to create smaller chunks for easier editing in the future. The existing structure of the text seemed to suggest these three parts.
Anybody better acquainted with the page and topic than I am, please revise the partition and the subsection titles as necessary.
213.47.127.75 03:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
