Talk:History of the Jews in England
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I'd be interested in the UK's stance of offering immigration to persecuted Jews on the continent during the Nazi regime and WW II. That would fit in to the last section "modern times". Any plans for that issue? --Freeatlast 21:07, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
Although some people are confused by the concepts of "England", "Britain" and the "United Kingdom", does anyone else think the line "England is the southern and central portion of the island of Britain" perhaps not necessary for an article regarding the history of Jews in England?
- You may want to sign your comments. Some of the text is taken from the Jewish Encyclopedia, which can be a bit pedantic at times when it comes to place recognition. As for the immigration issue, let me see what I can do. --Goodoldpolonius2 02:42, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks Goodoldpolonius2 for the info on WWII and immigration (as you can see, I now have an account as you can see). The reasons for the British reluctance to take on more persecuted Jews during WW II would be interesting to know. --Freeatlast 21:07, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Romans
What about Jews with the Roman Armies? --Son of Paddy's Ego 23:32, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] History of the Jews in *England*
Is there a reason this article is exclusive to Jews in England? Would there be any objections to expanding the article into an history of the Jews in Britain, including Scotland and Wales? aliceinlampyland 19:12, 5 January 2006 (UTC).
- Sounds like a good idea. The story of Jews in England misses out the the rest of Britain, which should be included. It would also be interesting to see a history of the jews in Ireland. --Dumbo1 16:50, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
- 'with about 350,000 Jews currently living in England'- England or the UK? The article contradicts itself (starts off describing the census in England, but then gives the same figure for the whole of the UK (despite the fact that Glasgow is particularly mentioned as having a large Jewish population). Which is it? Badgerpatrol 17:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
The article is correctly titled and focused.--Mais oui! 22:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- Then we ought to be clear in the use of statistics and other facts. 'England' and the UK are not interchangeable- as you may be aware. It would be one idea to clarify material currently in the article and set up linked stubs to e.g. History of the Jews in Scotland/Wales/etc. (especially given the quite considerable differences in the historical extent and pattern of anti-Semitic discrimination between the home nations). Unfortunately, I don't know exactly how to do this and nor do I want to proliferate a bunch of articles which are of potentially questionable significance. I personally feel it would be far better to retitle and revise this article as e.g. History of the Jews in the British Isles or similar. Cheers, Badgerpatrol 23:27, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
- agree with Badger's proposal. Arniep 00:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- There are History of the Jews in Scotland and History of the Jews in Ireland articles so renaming this one is not needed, however the article should still clarify the numbers of Jews in England rather than the whole of the UK. According to the 2001 census there were 6,400 Jews in Scotland, this could be subracted from the UK figure to give a better estimate of the number of Jews in England? I would also suggest removing Glasgow from the list of cities with Jewish communities.Benson85 04:13, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- The title is fitting: in the period prior to the late 17th Century Jews were mainly in England, not the other areas you mentioned (Scotland, Wales). The histories of England for that period refer to England, not Britain. So, the title is fitting. (And as is generally acknowledged by this and other references, there is no recorded history of Jews in the British island until the 17th century. Dogru144 14:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- agree with Badger's proposal. Arniep 00:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
- There are published works about Judaism in Wales; I know of at least one by Dan Cohn-Sherbok. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of time to throw put together an article (exams, etc.). Anyone up for it? aliceinlampyland 14:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Events at York Castle
The description of the death of Jews in Clifford's Tower in the article on York Castle is very different from the one here. I'm not sure which is more accurate, but some coordination needs to be done.
[edit] Expulsion of Jews, 1290
There needs to be some reference in this article as to where they went after expulsion: Spain? ... Where? Dogru144 14:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sir Richard Burton's manuscript: The Jew
Download:
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/jgei.htm
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Francis_Burton
[edit] Henry VIII's musicians
Jews in the Court, Raphael Mostel | Fri. Oct 06, 2006:
- it seems, the majority of the court musicians of Henry VIII and Elizabeth I were of Jewish heritage. It is a complicated, fascinating tale of historical excavation, one that involves a series of discoveries, from the identity of the mysterious “Dark Lady” of Shakespeare’s sonnets to the startling hypothesis that the whole grand European tradition of string music was born directly of Jewish hands.
