Talk:History of South Carolina

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[edit] Section title

I'm a bit surprised there is not a section called Proprietership between Prehistory and Colonial. This period introduced the characteristic economic system and concluded with the first of South Carolina's several revolutions.Hughespj 16:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I have changed "Pre-colonization" to "Pre-history" as colonization is a charged word (can be taken to imply that the area was unoccupied) while pre-history simply refers to anything that occurred prior to the keeping of known written records. I know that this was mentioned in the FAC evaluation, but perhaps another more neutral word could be found. I'm not sure what the specific objection was to the title "Pre-history" and the commentor did not elaborate. Cmadler 03:36, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, it's all right. I used that title in the first place because I had seen it in several other country and state articles. I'm going to write another state history article, History of Arizona and hopefully bring it up to FA status like this one. Right now it only incorperates text from Arizona. Doing another article on one of the original 13 colonies would be just too monotonous. I'm reading about 450 pages total of information before I get started. Toothpaste 06:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moving content about Jim Hodges

There are currently 6 paragraphs about Jim Hodges in this article. Someone should move most of that content into the Jim Hodges article (which currently is little more than a stub), and create a summarized version for this article. After reading this article, I feel like I know more about Jim Hodges than any other aspect of South Carolina history. Kaldari 21:02, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Christian Exodus

I wonder if we should add something about this mouvement in the article--Revas 17:23, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

I think we need to wait to see if it amounts to anything significant. So far, it hasn't. Pollinator 21:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Leader Text

Following a request from Toothpaste, I'll have a go at condensing the leader text of the article below. Rob Church Talk | Desk 00:53, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Existing Leader Text

Although the contemporary U.S. state of South Carolina has been populated since approximately 13,000 BC (when tool-making nomads began to leave material remains), the documented history of South Carolina begins in 1540 with the visit of Hernando de Soto. The South Carolina Upcountry was settled largely by Scotch-Irish migrants from Pennsylvania and Virginia who were following the opening of the frontier. Carolina became a royal colony in 1712 before being split into the Province of North Carolina and the Province of South Carolina in 1719. South Carolina declared independence from Great Britain and set up its own government on March 15, 1776, and on February 5, 1778, South Carolina became the first state to ratify the first constitution of the United States, the Articles of Confederation.

Disputes over slavery (as well as other economic matters such as tariff levels) led it to be the first state to secede from the United States on December 20, 1860. The rest of the Southern states seceded in the following months; together, they organized themselves as the Confederate States of America. On April 12, 1861, Confederate batteries began shelling Fort Sumter, which stands on an island in Charleston harbor, thus precipitating the Civil War.

The Confederacy lost the war, and was subject to a bitter occupation during the process of Reconstruction. The freed slaves benefited from this, gaining numerous civil rights; however, the gains were short-lived, and were eventually taken away by the Democrats once South Carolina re-entered the Union and northern troops were withdrawn. Civil rights for South Carolina blacks would not return until the mid-20th century, under President Dwight Eisenhower.

Today, South Carolina is attractive to businesses due to its low cost of business environment, and South Carolina is a right to work state. Along with other states in the U.S. South, the state has sought to use its low labor costs to foster economic growth as part of the New South. Also like other former-Confederate states, South Carolina has been torn over memorials to its Confederate past. The state has had a vigorous debate over what should be done with a Conderate battle flag flown over the South Carolina State House. As a compromise, the flag was moved to a Confederate monument on State House grounds. Other current issues are legalization of gambling and the HOPE and LIFE scholarships.

[edit] Proposed Shortened Version

Although the contemporary state of South Carolina has been populated since approx. 13,000BC, the documented history of South Carolina begins in 1540 with the visit of Hernando de Soto. Scotch-Irish migrants from Pennsylvania and Virginia, following the opening of the fronter, settled in the South Carolina Upcountry. In 1712, Carolina became a royal colony before being split into the provinces of North and South Carolina in 1719. South Carolina declared independence from Great Britain on March 15, 1776; and on February 5, 1778, became the first state to ratify the Articles of Confederation, the first constitution of the United States.

On December 20, 1860, South Carolina became the first state to secede from the United States. With the collaboration of other Southern states, which also seceded in the following months, the Confederate States of America were organised. On April 12, 1861, Confederate batteries began shelling Fort Sumter, thus precipitating the Civil War. Following the Confederate loss of the war, and occupation during the Reconstruction process, the freed slaves benefited from increased civil rights. These were retracted when South Carolina re-entered the Union, and would not return until the Presidency of Dwight Eisenhower during the mid-20th century.

[edit] Comments

  • Proposed version completed. Do what you like with it. Rob Church Talk | Desk 01:05, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Christian Exodus

Does this group self-identify as fundamentalist or did a Wikipedia editor apply the label? If they do not self-identify, I will remove the tag and link for NPOV, following the Associated Press guidelines for use of the term. Pollinator 18:51, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Why did they split NC and SC?

Why did the British split the Carolina territory into North Carolina and South Carolina? I'm just curious, and think this deserves a cursory explaination in the article. Nick 08:27, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I put this in the article:

The royal colony of Carolina (1712) was settled by immigrants from Pennsylvania and Virginia who followed the frontier, in the northern parts, while the southern parts were populated by wealthy English planters. As well, this southern part was more fully developed. For this reason, the Province of South Carolina was distinguished from the Province of North Carolina in 1719.

Toothpaste 08:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)