User talk:Hintha

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Contents 1 Broke the Tatmadaw article 2 Burma election 3 Chamber of Nationalities 4 Saraswati 5 DYK 6 Myanmar article 7 Sai Sai Kham Hlaing 8 RE: Myanmar article 9 Image Tagging for Image:Lit-up CBD from Raffles City - RGW.jpg 10 Great work! 11 Your edit to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Myanmar 12 Libya 13 Libya referencing 14 Every edit minor? 15 PNG to SVG 16 Which Web Browser are you using? 17 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 18 MoS:DP 19 monastery 20 Kokant/Kokang 21 Image:Bagan.png 22 Crown Prince Ka Naung 23 Saya Zawgyi 24 Image:Natmyanmar.jpg 25 Wikitravel contributions plagiarized 26 WikiProject Burma/Myanmar 27 Burma Socialist Programme Party Burmese acronym 28 Culture of Myanmar 29 Panglong Conference

[edit] Broke the Tatmadaw article

I'm not sure what you did but you broke this article as the letters no longer show. I am reverting back to the last working state. --mboverload@ 02:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Update: Actually, it seems all your edits have broken articles. Could you please revert them until you get it fixed? --mboverload@ 02:33, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Burma election

Thanks for reporting the dead link at my website, which to my mortification has not been noticed for more than two years. As for the figures, there are as I obtained them from the other website. After this length of time I don't remember whether I noticed the discrepancy, and I have no explanation for it. Adam 06:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chamber of Nationalities

nice little article, but it seem to lack some pretty basic elements: why and when was it abolished? Circeus 04:17, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saraswati

I don't know much about how she was transferred to Burmese Buddhism but I do know that she transferred over to general buddhism through the Sutra of Golden Light and Lotus Sutra. I sure some kind information and cultural exchange must have occurred over the centuries since India and Burma are right next to each other. Hope that helps. I hope the little section you are helping becomes its own article one day. --D-Boy 07:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 10 July 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Chamber of Nationalities, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Mgm|^(talk) 09:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Myanmar article

In looking for sources to create Karen Rifles, I found this page. It appears some sentences in the Myanmar article were lifted straight out of this page.

• "Burmese fought for both sides in the war. The Burma 1st Division, the Kachin Levies, the Karen Rifles and in other formations ... fought for the Allies...

and this whole paragraph that was recently taken out

The Karen Rifles did not fight during the second world war. The paragraph you reference was rewritten because it made no real sense and was factually wrong. There are few easy to access sources for the history of the Karen Rifles. I have lots of information/archive sources on them and I'm willing to make an attempt at creating an initial Karen Rifles article if you think one is needed. The short history of the Karen Rifles is that they were raised by the British in the spring of 1945. There were eventually three battalions. They were used against communists in central Burma in 1947-48. In late January 1949 when Ne Win was put in charge of the army and civil war broke out between the Burman/Karen, two battalions of the Karen Rifles broke away from U Nu's government. The third battalion was disarmed and imprisoned along with all other Karens serving in the military. The two battalions of the Karen Rifles eventually made up the core of what became the Karen National Army (KNA). 168.127.0.51 17:12, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

• "One of the top figures in Burmese history in the 20th century is Army founder and freedom figure General Aung San, a student-turned activist whose daughter is 1991 Nobel Peace Laureate and worldwide peace, freedom and democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi of the NLD, now under house arrest. The third most recognised Burmese figure in the world is U Thant, who was UN Secretary General for two terms and highly respected throughout United Nations' history.On 27 March 2006 the military junta moved the national capital from Yangon to Pyinmana, which has been renamed "Naypyidaw" meaning "seat of kings"".

The page says it's copyright 2006 by NAM so I don't think it is a Wikipedia mirror. Can you take a look and help make sure the article isn't plagiarising or violating any copyrights. Let me know what you think. Thanks.--WilliamThweatt 00:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

After clicking on the profiles of other member countries, I found that the "history" portions largely came from Wikipedia mirrors (using Google searches on some awkwardly written sentences). For example, Thailand's profile [1] has written "The Thais are very proud that they were never colonized by a European power.", which appears in nearly identical form on the Wikipedia mirror at Answers.com [2] ("The Thais are very proud that they have never been colonised by a European power."). I would say that NAM copied portions or entire articles of countries from Wikipedia's mirrors. Hintha 00:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

And besides, I remember writing "On 27 March 2006 the military junta moved the national capital from Yangon to Pyinmana, which has been renamed "Naypyidaw" meaning 'seat of kings'.". Hintha 01:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, that selltles that! Thanks for clearing that up.--WilliamThweatt 01:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sai Sai Kham Hlaing

I've checked with a mutual cousin and he's checked with SSKH's mother. Like you said Sao Pan Thee is a hoax or just incorrect info and the article has been edited by my source. Wagaung 12:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Myanmar article

Excellent job with the "Culture" section. It looks great. I probably won't get around to working on it tonight...it's getting late and I've been busy dealing with Theonlyzarni and all his personal attacks and disruptiveness, I believe he's blocked now, but I don't know for how long. I'll start work on it tomorrow.--WilliamThweatt 03:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I've added to the "Geography" section. Mostly descriptions of forests, animal and plant species, etc. Feel free to rearrange or edit as appropriate. I've also done some very minor copyediting of the "History" section. I have one question about this paragraph:

• "In 1947, Aung San became Deputy Chairman of the Executive Council of Burma, a transitory government. In July 1947, Aung San and several cabinet members were assassinated.[7] On January 4, 1948, the nation became an independent republic, known as the Union of Burma, with Sao Shwe Thaik as its first President and U Nu as its first Prime Minister."

After the second sentence, it seems a little amiguous, reading as if the independent republic came about as a result of the assisination of Aung San and his cabinet. Was this the case or am I misreading it? I'm not too clear about this particular era of Burmese history.--WilliamThweatt 04:40, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, the assasination did not lead to independence. I think I clarified the sentence, but if you still have questions, ask me. Hintha 05:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Too bad about the FAC. Don't be discouraged and don't give up (I won't). It seems the problem was with writing style, not content or formatting. If you know of a Wikipedian(s) who is gifted in the "art" of writing (as opposed to the "science" of writing) maybe consider recruiting him/her/them to help reword the problematic sections. I personally am very satisfied with the present content and think a reworking by a gifted writer would warrant another attempt at FAC.--WilliamThweatt 23:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Lit-up CBD from Raffles City - RGW.jpg

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[edit] Great work!

Great work in responding to all my comments, and solving all of the problems at the Myanmar PR! --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 07:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Myanmar

Your recent edit to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Myanmar (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // AntiVandalBot 17:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

The correct way of archiving such FAC without getting vandalism warnings would be to move the page to the archive page, and then edit the redirect page. This also saves the page history. Regards, — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 18:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Libya

[edit] Libya referencing

Please consider striking your objection to lack of referencing in the Libya article.

I have spent the last three days thoroughly increasing the number and quality of references. I have also updated the bibliographic style to be comprehensive and organised.

There are now over 60 references in the page and almost every paragraph and fact is referenced at least once if not more.

Your other concern was copyediting. Since posting your objection, several parts of the article have been re-edited by myslef and others.

Please reconsider your objection,

Thank you

--User:Jaw101ie 16:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Every edit minor?

I've noticed you've marked almost every recent edit minor, including [3], which adds useful info but isn't minor. Minor is usually just typos, punctuation and the like. Do you have My preferences -> Editing tab -> "Mark all edits minor by default" checked? If you make a lot of edits which changes any info, you might want to uncheck that.

I don't want to insult your intelligence or experience, but I am confused why most of your recent edits are marked minor, when you seem to make more substantial contributions than I do.

Also, may I ask why, in the same diff, you removed Image:Daw Aung San Suu Kyi.JPEG from the Politics section of Myanmar? I liked having her picture there, it seemed appropriate, and arguably didn't crowd the article. TransUtopian 02:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

"If you'd like to argue for the photo, please do so." Done. :) TransUtopian 04:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I have also made a case for the photo on the FAC page. I stongly believe it should stay.--WilliamThweatt 04:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PNG to SVG

I would quite like to do the stuff you suggest, but my ETA for it is sometime next weekend or later (due to lots of high priority real life tasks), so don’t expect to see anything tomorrow. —xyzzy_n 08:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I’ve traced Image:National League for Democracy flag.png, but before I upload it, I need to know which licence to use. Just add the necessary information on the PNG file’s Commons page and drop me a note when you’ve done that, I’ll copy it from there. Sorry to hear the FAC failed, but you can nominate it again once the problems have been fixed. —xyzzy_n 22:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

The {{insignia}} tag is not a licence, according to commons:Commons:Copyright tags#Other tags. I am not an expert on Commons, but, as far as I can tell, images there must be freely licensed (e. g. licensed under GFDL, CC-by[-sa] etc. or in the public domain), cf. commons:Commons:Licensing. I have no idea of who holds the copyright to the flag, if any, so I could at most upload it here instead of commons: and you would have to write fair use rationales for all uses of the flag. —xyzzy_n 19:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Flag uploaded to Image:National League for Democracy.svg. I recommend that you replace the remaining use of the PNG version (at zh:全國民主聯盟), if possible, and get the image deleted on Commons, because it really does not belong there. —xyzzy_n 13:06, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Image:MyanmarAdministrativeDivisions.svg done. Consider changing references from the PNG version to this one and nominating the PNG version for deletion and feel free to suggest improvements. —xyzzy_n 13:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

… By the way, what exactly does ‘Vectors adapted from Geographica's World Reference.’ mean? You are aware we can’t publish derivative works of non-free books, right? —xyzzy_n 19:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

You should generally give the source exactly as it is, and if it’s a commercial book, then that’s a problem, regardless of whether you could have found the map elsewhere. I’ll go look at CIA maps. —xyzzy_n 11:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Which Web Browser are you using?

Please be aware that your edit [4] stripped out a particular Unicode charater that is essential for most South Asian scripts. Till you work out why your editing removed the ZWJ character, I would recommend you not to edit any articles containing non-Latin Unicode scripts. --Harshula 20:34, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] MoS:DP

your edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kayin&diff=39710005&oldid=37203478 violates MoS:DP#Piping - Tobias Conradi (Talk) 00:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] monastery

hi. no Nyannghwe is not a spelling mistake but it is probably highly likely that it is the other monastery you are talking about with a slightly different spelling. Many of these places have many different spellings e.g. Mt Shishipanga or whatever it is has about 7 different! If the other article exists I will move page James Janderson 08:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kokant/Kokang

Thanks for the note about spelling about this ethnic group. Whatever you do, you certainly ought to make a note in the article that the "definitive" government site listing the 135 groups spells it the other ("wrong") way. Badagnani 00:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I see you've completely gotten rid of the former website. Are there any other differences in spelling between the two as regards any of the other 134? Badagnani 00:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Uh-oh -- Kokang is listed under Tibeto-Burman languages in the second half of the List of ethnic groups in Myanmar article. Should be the Chinese branch of Sino-Tibetan but we didn't have a Sino/Chinese subsection there. I guess that should be added. Also, are there any others in the Tibeto-Burman subsection that should actually be in the Chinese subsection? Are "Chinese" (other than the Kokang) classified as one of the 135 ethnic groups? Badagnani 03:35, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Sure, why not? There could be two ways to do it: a subsection following each one called "Unrecognized groups" or "Unrecognized languages," OR just put them in alphabetical order in the regular lists, with a parenthetical citation "(unrecognized by the Myanmar government)." Just as long as it's clear. I've tried since the beginning to stay with the internal logic of the official 135-group list, as we've done with the Chinese and Vietnamese ethnic groups article, so if we stay with that format, the above systems could work fine. I'd lean more toward the latter. The only problem is that the 135 groups are numbered in the top numbered list and that would throw it off... Badagnani 03:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, those groups are listed in the lead paragraph. I see that the additional Chinese groups were added to the list broken by language group but not the list of 135. This could create problems of internal logic between the two lists, which I think we should try to keep correlated as much as possible (though I still haven't been able to determine the language groups for many of the ethnic groups--the ones marked with hidden tags). Badagnani 04:06, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

These proposals sound good, and you have more expertise than I, so I'll leave it up to you. One question: do you propose leaving the "Government list" alphabetical, or do you want to break it down by "races" instead (or in addition)? Badagnani 04:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Bagan.png

Hi. The orphan template is for images that are not freely-licensed. Do you think Image:Bagan.png is not freely-licensed, or are you marking it for speedy deletion because you think we don't need it? If it is the latter, the proper place for that is Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Jkelly 16:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crown Prince Ka Naung

Hello. Just to say that prince ought to be mintha not min. Thanks. Wagaung 15:42, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Saya Zawgyi

Hello Hintha, thanks for fixing Wotton and all the rest. Much appreciated. Wagaung 22:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Natmyanmar.jpg

Hello, you've got the image of Sanda Muhki, the ogress who offered her breast to the Buddha, and for this act of merit she was given the prophecy that she would become a great king that built a city at the foot of Mandalay Hill and supported his religion. Wagaung 20:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikitravel contributions plagiarized

Greetings -- some of your contributions to the Yangon article on Wikitravel have been plagiarized by a local magazine. I was also affected and am currently negotiating for compensation (probably in the form of free travel), please e-mail me if you are or will be South-East Asia and would be interested. Jpatokal 19:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Burma/Myanmar

Thank you for joining the Wikiproject! I notice you add Burmese text to articles, would you please do so for Scouting in Burma? Thank you! Chris 19:38, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Can you put this text into the organization name on the Scouting in Burma article? Thanks Chris 08:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Chris 08:46, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, can you transliterate the text on the scroll on this emblem ? In English, it should come out some equivalent to Be Prepared or Always Prepared, or it may say something different entirely. Thanks again! Chris 23:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! This older one seems like it may say something different. Or is that just the embroidery? Chris 03:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Burma Socialist Programme Party Burmese acronym

Hi, BSPP script looks great but in the acronym could you lose the yaycha in la as otherwise it means masala as in spices. Thanks Wagaung 12:47, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Culture of Myanmar

Hi, you've missed out one out of the 10 flowers, bronze casting, in the traditional arts. Nice picture by the way. Wagaung 00:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Panglong Conference

Hi, thanks very much for restoring the article and the spirit in which it was written. Much appreciated. Wagaung 18:07, 30 November 2006 (UTC)