Talk:Hindustani (Hindi-Urdu) word etymology
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[edit] Proposed merger
There had been a previous proposal to merge this article into Hindi. Please see the discussion at Talk:Hindi. Agent 86 01:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- While my signature appears within the following text, I did not post this material here. It appears to be a cut-and-paste from the Talk:Hindi page and should have been acknowledged as such (and should have included the entire post). Agent 86 23:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC):
- This proposal is an alternative to proposing the deletion of the article, Origin of some common Hindustani words. That article seems to be indiscriminate (i.e. no basis for which words were chosen for analysis) and maybe even original research. However, it did seem that it would be appropriate to include some of the information from that article in the "Hindi" article. Normally, I'd have been bold and merged the article myself; however, given how well written this article is and how little I know about Hindi, I thought doing the actual merge (if at all) should be left to those who actually know what they're talking about (in English or Hindi or whatever)! Agent 86 17:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- This article is already too long and needs to be trimmed. That article seems salvageable, but it would take some research to back it up. An article on the evolution of Hindi words seems a legitimate one, and could use some researched examples to illustrate points instead of being an indescriminate collection and a title that makes it sound like an indescriminate collection. Does that sound like a reasonable approach? I'll try to go to a research library tomorrow and see if I can find some good sources. I'd like to find enough sources to get this article (Hindi) up to FA status. Short answer is I don't think this article would benefit from merging that in, but I will try to save it. - Taxman Talk 22:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- I oppose the merger, as it would spoil this already long article. I already have a good book listing the origin of words, but I hav no time. Also, there is no need to merge Shuddha Hindi with this article.Cygnus_hansa 14:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- I also oppose the merge. The Origin of some common Hindustani words article can be further developed and made into an informative and thorough article. This topic deserves an article of its own. For these reasons, I removed the merger tag. Now that this article has been categorized, I'm sure others will be able to see it and edit it. Thanks! Zulfikkur 01:17, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- I oppose the merger, as it would spoil this already long article. I already have a good book listing the origin of words, but I hav no time. Also, there is no need to merge Shuddha Hindi with this article.Cygnus_hansa 14:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- This article is already too long and needs to be trimmed. That article seems salvageable, but it would take some research to back it up. An article on the evolution of Hindi words seems a legitimate one, and could use some researched examples to illustrate points instead of being an indescriminate collection and a title that makes it sound like an indescriminate collection. Does that sound like a reasonable approach? I'll try to go to a research library tomorrow and see if I can find some good sources. I'd like to find enough sources to get this article (Hindi) up to FA status. Short answer is I don't think this article would benefit from merging that in, but I will try to save it. - Taxman Talk 22:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- I suspected that it might not be prudent to merge the article into this one. However, I still don't think Origin of some common Hindustani words stands on its own or meets the criteria of WP:NOT and other policies, so I have nominated it for deletion. Please see the AfD discussion here. Agent 86 02:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Macrons, superscript
Trust me, I love fonts, and I love diacritics... but really, macrons and superscripted "h"s are really inappropriate for plain text in English. They belong in the transliterated or Romanized text from another language. The same problem is being fixed on the Hindi page. --SameerKhan 03:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Permission
Following the suggestion by User:Jdas07, let me add the following. The text of this article has been placed here with the permission of the original author Y. Malaiya.--Malaiya 23:19, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Selection of words
I did not note the call for deletion. I am glad people voted to keep this.
There was a questions: How were the words selected? A good question actually.
The words selected are some of the most common words in Hindi/Urdu and they illustrate the gradual derivation process nicely.
If someone is curious about some other words, mention them here, and perhaps one of us can find the derivation.--Malaiya 23:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- How about putting in the origin of some of the most common Perso-Arabic-derived words? E.g. kitaab. Grover cleveland 07:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)