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whoever cleaned up my old Amakakeru Ryū no Hirameki details.... thank you very much. I'll pay keener attention to spelling and such in the future. --Faucett 00:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC) There was a lot missing about the biography, I felt, so I added/changed a few things here or there roughly a week ago. -Dream Rurouni

[edit] Pictures?

I have noticed that there is a lot of pictures, some screen shots some are not. Does http://www.animegalleries.net allow people to just take there pictures? Alus 04:05, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Additionally, is it allowable to submit images with a visible copyright, e.g. "© 2006 Watsuki/Shueisha"? -dano, may 23, 1:40a Enishi Hair It's DR again, I was the one who added a lot to the Ishin Shishi/Tomoe days of Kenshin. I noticed that someone mentioned enish "bleached" his hair. This (to the best of my knowledge) is never doucumented nor said, I believe the manga implies his nerves caused his hair to age prematurely/turn white, not bleached.

[edit] Death in OVA

Does anyone think that the disease that him and Kamiya Kaoru had was Systemic Lupus Erythematosus? It sounds and looks similar but I am not sure. Alus 04:05, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

There is no confirmation at all as to what disease Kenshin and Kaoru really "shared". So, just like the ending itself, it is entirely up to the reader what disease killed Ken-Kao, but that would be the closest guess I could think of.

As the matter was never actually addressed within the OVA, we can unfortunately never be entirely sure of what disease they died from. While I always assumed that they simply died of a form of leporsy, the disease that you mentioned could fit as well, I suppose. RPH - aka - Shogun 22:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

The date of Kenshin's death is 1895, not 1894. He leaves Tokyo in 1893 (as listed in the QVA) and returns in 1895 (after the wars is over. ) Nlf7 09:40, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


I removed mention of this from the introduction, as it is a spoiler.

[edit] Umbrella Style

What is actually known about the style of the Umbrella that Kenshin uses against the circus people? Symmetric Chaos 13:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Pretty much nothing as it was entirely the brainchild of the filler staff. I don't think Watsuki even had any imput in the matter. RPH - aka - Shogun 22:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Which ending is more universally accepted?

What ending do most Kensin fans go with, the OVA ending where he and Kaoru die or the manga ending where they simply settle down and raise Kenji together with no more wandering, diseases or death?

As a purist, I go with the manga ending. However, I can understand those who like emo and angst preferring the darker OVA ending.

Jinchuu Crusader 06:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Sango. The fact that the OVA goes against the established canon of the manga discredits it in my book (and most of the other fans that I know). Don't get me wrong, the OVA ending was awesome (as was the rest of it), but I prefer to consider it as an alternate ending at most. RPH - aka - Shogun 22:13, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, not to mention they somehow made the OVA's animation look worse than the anime! -Iopq 12:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Have it This Way!!!

In my opinion, Kenshin dying is someow good and not good. Please don't get me wrong, I would love to know that he wouldn't have died and that somehow on a day i don't expect there will be new episodes. On the other hand, Kenshin not dying makes him invinsible... and that - I suppose was one of the rerasons Kenshin faught Shishio Makoto for. Not making hm die in the w\end wiould let some shallow minded people more like warship kenshin as if he was something real and not just an anime character.

Maybe i took it somehow religious but i believe we have to consider that. I adore Kenshin OVA and so I do for the 95 episodes, but we have to be somehow logical. No one would have survived all these wounds, and the OVA ending was the most suitable in my opinion.

L.W April, 4th, 2006

Erm, right. Well, Wikipedia is not a place discuss your feelings about the series. It is an encyclopedia. I can't see what you want changed or what you think needs to be fixed in the article itself. I think the article accurately displays what happens in the OVA, the anime, and the manga. --Trance 22:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I think you're mistaking this for a forum, this is an encyclopedia that shows information objectively. Katsuhagi 21:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] kenshin sword style

what is the name of kenshin's sword style?--Geterdone 20:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I have vol. 1 here and Sanosuke says "The Chōsū Revolutionary, Himura Battosai...whose way is the ancient sword-school of Hiten Mitsurugi-ryu." I can't really tell if the last word is supposed to have a hyphen or not but I hope that helps. Sasuke-kun27 20:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
it does ,thanks Sasuke-kun27
Always glad to help when I can ^_^ -Sasuke-kun27 17:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pic

we need to add a pic at the intro.--Kenshin -Himura 22:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I have a pic here, licensced and everything. We'd have to make it about 200-250px but other than that, its pretty good. Can we use this? Sasuke-kun27 01:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Awsome!--Kenshin -Himura 19:20, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Messages to an anonymous user

Please edit the article based on facts (not on personal interpretations.) For example, there's no indication that Kenshin becomes suicidal in hopes of 'joining' Kaoru and Kenshin and Kaoru never make a promise to never be apart again in the manga. Moreover, the following paragraph should've gone straight to this page:

"He has realized that the string of bad events throughout his life, being orphaned and sold into slavery, becoming a manslayer, Tomoe's death and his ten years of lonely wandering, had all led him to a happy ending with Kaoru, his supposed 'soul mate.' "

Don't get me wrong! I (more or less) agree with the above comments but they aren't based on facts according to the manga. Some people have different interpretations. Therefore, personal comments/interpretations/opinions should've been on this discussion page instead (and not on the article page.) Seven 05:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


I've decided to delete part of your recent edit:

"He and Chizuru, because of their similarity to Kenshin and Kaoru, strongly resemble the history of a great love repeating itself in the next generation. The final message seems overall to be bittersweet, with Kaoru and Kenshin's life over, but a new generation growing up in a peaceful world free of bloodshed - exactly the vision he had fought for - and killed for - so many years ago."


Sasuke-kun27, I was following Commander Keane's advice:

"Make the accurate change with a good edit summary. If they revert, drop a note on their talk page and discuss on the article's talk page. "

I made the accurate change with a summary on Sep 21 2006 and they reverted on Sep 22 2006. Therefore, I made the corrections again on Sep 22 2006 and left messages here. Seven 23:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


Again, I've deleted your edit. Where does the following quote come from??? It isn't from the (original) script!

I would live my life, the rest of my life, only for you, just to make you happy, because that is what you truly deserve.- Quoted directly from the Seisouhen OVA, in the scene where Kaoru asks him to join her family- from anonymous user. PS: It was edited into the Seisouhen Ova section of the page. Therefore, it's a fact, maybe not according to the Manga, but to the OVA

You've quoted it wrong! Quoted directly from the Seisouhen OVA:
Karou; "I wouldn't say to you to live only for me. I know your hands, those can create more smiles among more people. Your life doesn't exist only for compensation...I think your life exists in order to create more happiness from now on. So, please make my dram come true."
Kenshin: "Anything I can do to make you happy... If I can make you smile. " Seven 20:38, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

I quoted from the english dubbed version. Before Kenshin talked about wandering japan and seeing that Samurai's mother, he said those words i quoted. Yours may have been from the Japanese language version. I just watched the proposal over again (in English) and he said those words. It's from the director's cut version. Maybe they're different, too...

Please note that I've stated that "it isn't from the (original) script!" (Yes, I've got the director's cut version.) The difference between the subtitles (close enough to the original script) and the English dubbed version is when Kenshin says Anything I can do to make you happy, the English dubbed version says "I'll do anything for you!" (So, please watch the OVA again.)
By the way, the English dubbed version is beyond terrible! In Tsuiokuhen's case, they made way too many mistakes in the historical background session (on one occasion they spelt "Kyoto" as "Tokyo,") not to mention the terrible English dub.
Let me give you a few examples:
In the scene where Kenshin says to Tomoe I will protect you, make sure that you are happy, the English dubbed version says "Would you marry me, really?"
In the scene where Kenshin says to Katsura I will lend you my sword to your cause, Tomoe saved my life. I think she knew I would have to fight once more, I believe that, the English dubbed version says "I'll lend you my skills. Tomoe was destoyed by the Shogunate. They used her emotions to control her. I will make them pay for that."
(If we edited the articles according to the english dubbed version, it would be a total disaster!) Seven 04:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


Kenshin and Kaoru marry around two years after they first met? according to what? They met in early 1878 and Kenji looks about two or three in Summer 1882. In any case, since it's not stated in the manga, it's not a fact. Seven 03:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move

Requested move: Himura Kenshin to Kenshin Himura.--Kenshin -Himura 20:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I oppose because we'd have to do that for every other Rurouni Kenshin character. Sasuke-kun27 20:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I'll do it.--Kenshin -Himura 20:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Let's wait for some more opinions and see where it goes from there. Sasuke-kun27 20:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
anyone second me or sasuke?--Kenshin -Himura 20:25, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Please.....anyone anyone at all?--Kenshin -Himura 20:26, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I second Kenshin -Himura.--Geterdone 20:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I third him/her.--Yoyo-man 20:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I oppose the move. Though they are fictional characters, they are also pre-Meiji characters, and policy dictates that people in this category be ordered as family name + given name. ~SnapperTo 23:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
I also oppose it. Besides the fact that we would have to do all the characters in the same way, which would take way too long, any links to the article would be broken and god knows how many pages link to this one. That and I honestly don't see a good reason, they are Japanese characters and therefore follow Japanese conventions.Katsuhagi 11:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Also take note that all three of those users do virtually nothing other than comment on talk pages. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:13, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
What diffrence does that make?--Kenshin -Himura 13:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
You don't contribute anything, so what experience do you have in such matters? You just make random comments on talk pages and occasionally move pages against consensus. Go edit some articles and get a feel for the process. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temporary Protection???

In the past month, an anonymous user's been editing the article (as well as a few other RK articles) not only with facts, but also with inaccurate info, "fan fic" and personal interpretations repeatedly. He/She has disregarding the policies and comments from other editors.

Moreover, on 25 October 2006, he/she changed 202.156.6.54's "i luv tomoe... she is sooooo cute and pretty!!!!!!!" to "i strongly dislike tomoe... she is sooooo dead and ugly!!!!!!!" on the Yukishiro Tomoe discussion page. (Whether 202.156.6.54's message was pointless or not, this anonymous user went too far.)

Since the page has been a recent target of persistent vandalism or/and persistent edits by this anonymous user, should we suggest the page be protected? Seven 00:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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