User talk:HighInBC/Archive 13

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Contents 1 Re:KkKeeling 2 Your RfA 3 sorry 4 Arrgh, double vote! 5 RfA thanks 6 Simonapro (talk • contribs • count • logs • page moves • block log • email) 7 Thanks 8 FPC requires addtional input 9 Kafziel 10 Peter Singer quote 11 Edit conflict at RfA 12 Pre-emptive congrats on the RfA 13 Your RfA 14 If I make a mistake 15 User:216.56.2.62 16 chess piece image 17 Re: #wikipedia-en-admins 18 rfa 19 Thank you 20 Thanks 21 Signature 22 Re: Sorry 23 Um...isn't your name a bit contoversial? 24 Don't Worry was a Mistake

[edit] Re:KkKeeling

Hi - its a good point but his userpage states his name is "Josh Keeling." I recommend you message him about WP:USERNAME and advise him to change his name. But as he has clarified his real name we can't block him. Similar case occured a few months ago with user:ARYAN818. We must not jump the gun, Rama's arrow 15:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I will wait and see if he responds to my original question. I will look into user:ARYAN818. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

• This conversation is in reference to [1] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:22, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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Hi, High (:))! I have asked a question on your RfA, and I would appreciate it if you could answer it. Thanks,  Jorcogα  06:10, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure, in the morning I will. Good question. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 06:48, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Response given, thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:02, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sorry

• This conversation is in reference to [2] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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my apologies for the andy kaier article. and thank you for your suggestions.

Xcrunner149 18:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, no worries. Thanks for the polite response. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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Personal attack removed [3] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 00:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Arrgh, double vote!

• This conversation is in reference to [4] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 02:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks for the heads up, I edited the 2 votes. I was watching the game, you know. :D Anyways, it was nice to run into your page, fellow British Columbian. :) Love your images, by the way. Have a great day and just in case I don't happen to pass by by the time you are an admin, congratulations. :) ← ANAS ^Talk 11:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

I would like to express my appreciation of the time you spent considering my successful RfA. Thankyou Gnangarra 13:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Simonapro (talk • contribs • count • logs • page moves • block log • email)

Just so you know, Simonapro has been indefinetely blocked. Addhoc 16:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I did not realize that, no block template. Thanks for letting me know. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 17:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

First he created this page Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Chondrite, accusing Chondrite of being a sockpuppet of a much more experienced user, then I reported him to the incidents page for threats [5]. I have just written to him [6] trying to encourage him to chill out and come back. I am no fan of the disciplinary procedures here and it is a shame it has led to this but he seemed beyond reasoning to me and threats only put people off editing here, SqueakBox 18:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you did the right thing. It is too bad the user had been blocked, but it needed to be done. I hope that if the user is unblocked that he will make usefull contributions, and respect consensus even if it goes against him. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you both for your efforts to reason with Simonapro. I think it's very unfortunate that the situation degenerated to the point where a block was necessary. If you have any advice on how I could have handled the situation better, I'm receptive. Thanks again, Chondrite 23:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Chondrite, you have handled this situation in a manner befiting a veteran Wikipedian. You remained calm and polite in the face of obstinance. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 23:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the warm welcome! I'll get to work on uploading those images. Kochdude388 00:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

One more question: I took the picture for a character page (of the character directly from a film), would that be considered copyrighted material? Kochdude388 00:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I am not certain, I would need more detail. If you were actually there and took the picture of the character in person then it belongs to you as long as you were not on private property(once again I am not certain). If you are making a copy of an image someone has made before then copyright is a concern. If you give me more specifics on the situation, then I can give you more specific advice. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 01:10, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I was watching a DVD on my TV and I took a picture of an animated character on-screen. Kochdude388 21:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

That is still copyrighted, and cannot be released to a free license. However, if you can meet the fair use criteria then that may allow the image. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 21:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FPC requires addtional input

You voted on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Vernier caliper, but a new version has been proposed and we need to close the vote. If you could clarify your vote that would be very helpful. ed g2s • talk 15:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Done, thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:04, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kafziel

• This conversation is in reference to [7] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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LIVING? Joseph Ferdinand of Bavaria, Prince of Asturias is long dead! - crz crztalk 15:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed the link to WP:CITE instead. Just wanted to save face for you; hope that's okay. Kafziel ^Talk 15:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Kaf hehe. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Singer quote

• This conversation is in reference to [8] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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without context I don't see how this statement has to do with ethics, it is not an ethical arguement but more of a mission statement "Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, ....

That's a fair comment. I think that making the reader aware of Singer's attitude toward Christianity has a legitimate place in the article, but I agree that it seems a bit "bolted on" as written. What sort of context do you think would be appropriate? Waitak

Thanks for discussing this. The quote: Christianity is our foe. If animal rights is to succeed, we must destroy the Judeo-Christian Religious tradition.

The source given, does not give a context. As for what type of context I would feel warrents inclusion, is showing how this is an ethical arguement.

Right now the quote(one chosen by a blog, not a wikipedian reading the book) is a statement that says "These guys are our enemies. If we are to succeed we must destroy them.". There are no ethical arguements contained in the quote as is. It is possible that the text of the book explains how this relates to ethics, but the blog page does not(nor would it's interpretation of the book be a reliable source). I hope I have explained myself better than I did in the limited edit summery space. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow, looks like I dropped in in the middle of a successful RfA bid party! The comment I left here last night (HKT) is only barely on the first page of the history! Congrats. I'm sure you'll make a top notch admin. Waitak 00:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Yup, this talk page is a small party of well wishers, and people wondering why their image was deleted hehe. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 01:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit conflict at RfA

• This conversation is in reference to [9] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

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You were quick with that correction! I had written this:

Neither Joseph Ferdinand of Bavaria, Prince of Asturias nor Charles II of Spain are living people. At least I hope they aren't... Please feel free to modify your suggestion to ObRoy. :-) NB. I don't agree with ObRoy's characterisation of those diffs, if those are the diffs he meant.

...and then got an edit conflict with your edit correcting your link to 'LIVING' to 'CITE'. :-) Carcharoth 15:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Hang on. I see from the above that Kafziel made the change. My head is spinning! Carcharoth 15:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank god for edit conflicts. Ya, I can see it now, 27 Opposes in 2 hours for not understanding policy hehe. In reality I was looking at the diffs without reading the top of the article. Also, they never taught my history very well in school, snicker. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-emptive congrats on the RfA

Enjoy your new privileges.

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat." --Wafulz 21:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I will take my new charge seriously... not too seriously. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 21:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations HighInBC!!!! Have fun with your new tools, and if you ever have any admin-related questions, feel free to contact me. =) Nishkid64 22:03, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I will, thanks for the offer. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 22:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

I am pleased to let you know that, consensus reached, you are now an Administrator. You should find the following forums useful:

• Administrators' reading list
• Administrators' how-to guide
• Administrators' Noticeboard

• Administrators' Noticeboard for Incidents
• Administrators' Noticeboard for Three-revert rule violations

Congratulations on your promotion and the best of luck with your new charge! Redux 22:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh boy, look at those shiny buttons... must use restraint... must be responsible! HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 22:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Congrats, HighInBC on becoming an admin :)! Enjoy your new mop...¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:10, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and congratulations to yourself! Judging from the consensus you received and my previous assessment, you'll do a great job! -- Renesis (talk) 22:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! - crz crztalk 22:18, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Well done! "Whose da man?" "Youz da man!" Remember, walk softly but carry a big stick mop! If you have any questions about your new shiny buttons then please ask, as I would quite like to know what to with with them too! (aeropagitica) 22:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! And now I wish you lots of fun with the new buttons ;-) --Tone 22:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

The mop

Congratulations on becoming an admin! Enjoy your new-found powers, and remember to use them only for good, and not for evil. If you would like to try out your new mop, here are some spots that always need loving care: Category:Images with unknown source Category:Images with no copyright tag Category:Images with unknown copyright status Category:Replaceable fair use images All the best! - Quadell

The flamethrower

Hey, congrats! I know you will/are do/doing a great job :). Alphachimp 15:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah yeah, forgot to congratulate ya. All the best with it :) riana_dzasta 16:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem-- I know you'll keep it real. You've helped tremendously at Health issues and the effects of cannabis and I'm always happy to see good editors move up the ranks. See you around. --Howrealisreal 16:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ryan. Congratulations on your succesful RfA. All the best. ← ANAS ^Talk? 16:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations and best of luck -- Samir धर्म 04:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] If I make a mistake

please tell me nicely, I have gone from an experienced editor to a newbie admin in a matter of moments. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 22:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:216.56.2.62

Hi! You removed User:216.56.2.62 from the AIV list inbetween me going and blocking the user and getting back to AIV to remove them, so I thought I'd explain why I blocked them. They were blocked for 50 days on October 5th (the latest is a long line of blocks), which expired about 4 days ago, and they're already back vandalising. It's almost certainly the same user, so I blocked for a month. I'll recommend an indefinite block if they keep going once that month's up (if I notice). --Tango 23:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I often err on the side of caution. Keep up the good work. Although you blocked for 6 months, not one. But that is probably for the best since 50 days did not work. I will remember to read the block history before being lenient. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 23:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, yes 6 months. It seemed a good next level up after 50 days. I'm not sure why I said one month... --Tango 00:07, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] chess piece image

• This conversation is in reference to [10] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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What is wrong with the licence of the chess pieces? I got permission of the copyright owner by email. Bubba73 (talk), 00:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

It was marked as For Wikipedia only, we need a license anyone can use. It is possible that it was marked improperly. If you can get a confirmation that it has a compatable license I will gladly undelete it, it is a wonderfull picture. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 00:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I will look further... I see, you got permission, but Wikipedia only permission is not enough, see Wikipedia:Requesting_copyright_permission#For_images for details on how to qualify this image. Sorry about that, but copyright laws can really hurt if you ignore them. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 00:16, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Here is the email I got from the copyright owner, will it do: Bubba73 (talk), 00:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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From: "Frank and Gwen" <gwenshep@bellsouth.net> To: "Jud McCranie" <j.mccranie@adelphia.net> Cc: <staff@houseofstaunton.com> Subject: Re: permission to use image of Jaques set? Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:10:06 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869

Hi Jud:

Sure. We would appreciate acknowledgement for the image. You might prefer to use an image of the original Staunton chessmen, which we can provide, if you would like.

All the best,

Frank A. Camaratta, Jr. The House of Staunton, Inc. 256.858.8070 www.houseofstaunton.com

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From: "Frank A.Camaratta, Jr." <fcamaratta@houseofstaunton.com> To: "Jud McCranie" <j.mccranie@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: permission to use image of Jaques set? Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:23:51 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869

Hi, Again, Judd:

I have attached an image from The House of Staunton archives of the original Staunton chessmen, circa 1849. Again we would appreciate acknowledgment for the images.

All the best,

Frank A. Camaratta, Jr. The House of Staunton, Inc. 256.858.8070 www.houseofstaunton.com

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Bubba73 (talk), 00:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the details, this is not enough unfortunatly, as it does not state what type of permission is being given.

We need the following rights for inclusion:

1. Modification
2. Redistribution
3. Use for any purpose, including commercial purposes.

The only restrictions allowable are proper attribution of the creator and the requirement that derivative works are similarly licensed.

This is more than is legally required, but our goal is to create a free encyclopedia so we require extra freedom in the content we use. Permission can be sent to permissions-en@wikimedia.org which will hold the email as evidence.

Thank you for contributing this, I hope it works out. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)}

OK, I'll ask for more specifics on the rights. In the meantime, the link you sent asked for a link to the image, here it is. Bubba73 (talk), 00:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, we really appreciate people going and talking copyright owners into releasing their images into a compatable license. It helps us alot. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 00:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I just sent the email asking for the rights you listed. It might be tomorrow before I hear back. Bubba73 (talk), 00:37, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

PS, I originally asked only about Wikipedia:

Could I have permission to use one of your images of a Jaques set, probably this one: http://www.houseofstaunton.com/Jaques/Millennium.JPG on Wikipedia, www.wikipedia.org? I would like to use it to illustrate the Staunton pattern and on the article about Jaques. Thank you.

. Bubba73 (talk), 00:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: #wikipedia-en-admins

I just got my mop, can you please give me access to #wikipedia-en-admins, the E-mail this user link on my page is properly configured to a private e-mail account. Thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 00:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. If you've got an IRC username registered, could you reply with it on my talk page? I'll get you added right away then, and you'll just type /msg chanserv invite #wikipedia-en-admins before joining the channel. --Interiot 00:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rfa

nothing ;) --Dario vet 16:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Congrats. I would have voted for you but didnt know you were a candidate, SqueakBox 16:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Squeak, I will let you know if I ever run for 'Crat. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 16:53, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 17:17, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

• This conversation is in reference to [11] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you for your help with the Feed Me Bubbe site. I am new to wiki and made sure to wait until there was a form of notability. Thank you again and any advice you can give is appreciated.

also how do you do a CC-nc-sa, which requires non-commercial use only and is that allowed for placing an image up? -Chalutz

Our stated goal is to create an encyclopedia that can be copied for any purpose including commercially. The only restrictions on an image license we allow are:

1. Attribution requirement(we will give you credit)
2. Requiring derived works to be the same license(so if we make a new version based on yours we still give you attribution)

Unfortunatly non-commercial only images are incompatable with our project. If you decide to release it to a compatable license, rememeber, anyone will be able to use it for anything, and this permission cannot be revoked. Thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

• This conversation is in reference to [12] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks. I will find links outside of myspace that can verify the reliablity of the information. I didn't realize that Myspace links were not considered reliable sources.--Thirdeyevision 18:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem, WP:RS goes into detail, what is reliable is a bit arbritrary. We deal with this through discusion. Let me know if you need any help, advice, or opinion. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signature

• This conversation is in reference to [13] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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Yeah,I saw that when I posted on someone's talkpage. Thanks anyways, it looks my email got disabled too... Protoss Archon 19:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

hehe, kids... HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Sorry

• This conversation is in reference to [14] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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No problem, it happens. I figured out how to undo the autoblock (I haven't had to do that in a while) so I went ahead since the initial block was an accident. Feel free to report me for unblocking myself... ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:28, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Oh good, glad you fixed it. Geez, not bad for my second day. Thanks for being good natured about this. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Keep up the good work! :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 19:35, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Um...isn't your name a bit contoversial?

Seriously, if you weren't you....Would you block your own name? I'm just asking.Mark Doesn't Want Trouble 21:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

No, as it says on my talk page My wikipedia name HighInBC is a reference to my enjoyment of hiking the mountains and valleys of British Columbia. What's more, I can't even think of how the username could be offensive, perhaps you could explain? HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 21:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

My signature appears atleast once on over 2000 pages[15], and nobody has ever noticed anything odd about it before... HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 21:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't Worry was a Mistake

• This conversation is in reference to [16] and [17] HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 01:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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Don't worry I misread the content from a previous copy on Dork. It was a mistake during RC Patrol.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 01:17, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I am glad it was a simple slip-up as opposed to a misinterpretation of policy. Thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 01:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No further edits should be made to this page.