Talk:Highway 400 (Ontario)
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[edit] Proposed Interchanges
I have to question having a list of proposed interchanges along with exit numbers for the stretch of Highway 69 north of Parry Sound. I think its highly irrisponsible to simply assume exits and exit numbers for a highway that hasn't even had preliminary designs carried out. The MTO is only studying 4-laning highway 69, nothing more at this point. -149.99.27.2 00:26, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- The section from Parry Sound to north of Nobel will soon be under construction and has a detailed route. From Nobel to Highway 522, a planned route has been made, and by adding the distance gets us through Exit 304. Beyond that point, they are simply guesses, since the only section with a detailed plan is from Estaire to Highway 17 (under construction) and that cannot be numbered until the plan is released. The exit numbers are simply assumptions - it says "exit numbers assumed". They could easily be changed once plans are available; that is the beauty of Wikipedia :)
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- No detailed route north of Highway 522 has been finalized. I don't believe they are even finished the public information sessions (PIC)s. And of course, even if they were done the PIC portion of the study that does not mean that construction is actually going to start. There are many cases when construction has actually been announced (which it hasn't in this case) and projects are delayed and re-evulated (hwy 7 near ottawa as arecent example). For the record I am not trying to be difficult, but I have a big problem with information being shown that isn't true and is based on assumptions. I understand that in this 'encyclopedia' information can be changed at a moments notice, however, this is an encyclopedia, and should be based solely on real information, not just oppinions or hearsay on what might be the case. --24.103.242.178 06:06, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Highway 522 to Highway 64: will be twinned (not realigned), according to the maps at the MTO site. CrazyC83 03:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cause of plans to be shelved
I believe the cause of the shelving of the plans to extend the 400 in the 1970's was public resistance to the plan - the same reason that the eglinton ave. expressway wasn't built. I have a bulliten published by the MTO in the 1980's with the initial plans for the expansion from Highway 12 to Mactier which I will try to scan in at some point and post here. These plans were modified because of the indian land claim by the Whata Mohawks which incidentally are the same indian band as the Oka indians so famous for their standoff with the police over a decade ago.
- Are you sure about the last part? The freeway is currently under construction in the Wahta Mohawk Reserve (km 179-187) and completed to Parry Sound otherwise. (Additional construction is currently underway from Bowes Street to north of Highway 124 - roughly km 225-232) CrazyC83 23:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- See Wahta Mohawk Territory, Ontario for more info. The claim was settled recently which has allowed construction to start.
[edit] Metric Speed Conversions
65 MPH is closer to 105KPH than 100 KPH. The speed limit was dropped slightly on metric conversion to conserve fuel. Blacknail 16:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 1951?
I was reading a document that stated the name of the highway was originally just the "Barrie Highway", which was completed in 1951. Is this a direct predecessor to Highway 400? Source: Bulletin #3: Roads, Tolls, Rails & Automobiles from City of Vaughan archives, Cultural Services Division. Mindmatrix 23:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 518 interchange
This isn't the only interchange with a secondary road.
Highway 58 has an interchange with the 406 in St Catharines. This is a massive cloverleaf which also has the local beaverdams road running through it. Check it out on google earth. --Uncle Bungle 23:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- I believe they are talking about a Secondary Highway, numbered in the 500-699 range. There are no secondary highways in Southern Ontario. Also, the 406/58/St. David's Road interchange is not a cloverleaf, nor is Beaverdams Road involved in this interchange. Snickerdo 03:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry I mixed up Beaverdams and St. David's, and you're right, it's not a cloverleaf, actually, I don't know what you would call it. Do you? Thanks for clarifying the secondary highways rule too. Sat Photo --Uncle Bungle 04:30, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Design Bulletin
Here is the bulletin that I promised! Blacknail 23:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed Interchanges
I was checking out the proposed interchange section, and I noticed that Parry Sound Drive and Highway 124 were numbered as seperate exits. However, Google Maps shows that it's just one road that is marked as Highway 124 north of 69/400 and Parry Sound Drive south of the 69/400. Is there something that I'm missing? --Smoothtofu 00:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
