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[edit] Guides to improving articles

5 articles about similar topics seems like overkill. I feel these should be merged into a single article, or a smaller number of articles - each with a distinct purpose. I was wondering what you all felt about naming, the number of articles and what content should be included? Gareth Aus 07:58, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles was condensed from many other articles. They are listed at Wikipedia:Selected editorial guidance. Maurreen 18:21, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
I don't have a view about the rest, either for or against, but I feel WP:PERFECT is still useful on its own. It's rather different from the rest. Stephen Turner (Talk) 09:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree that it's overkill. Not sure what to suggest at the moment, but I thought you might be interested in the related Wikipedia_talk:Citing sources#Appendices and their order. --J. J. 21:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
I've created a side-by-side comparison of "Guide to layout..." and "Guide to writing..." in order to improve the appendices order. If there are no objections, I'm going to try to work on it pretty quickly so I don't miss any important edits on either page. I'm not ready to merge them quite yet! User:RockOfVictory/Appendices_order_draft --J. J. 17:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Finished the appendices merge from WP:1SP to WP:GTL. --J. J. 20:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I have merged Wikipedia:Guide to improving articles & Wikipedia:How to write a great article as Wikipedia:Article development - though I may put Wikipedia:How to write a great article into Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles instead, and put Wikipedia:The perfect article into article development. I'll see. A number of the articles have a place but need more descriptive names. -- Gareth Aus 08:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Excellent stuff. Good luck with the rest :) -Quiddity 19:36, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Created template {{Writing guides}} to explain the different pages and cleaned up layout section of Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles. May be better to be merged with the Manual of Style. I'll have to think and compare the two. - Gareth Aus 08:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Activity?

Is this project still active and moving forward with a set of targets and goals? I only ask because the help front page used to look nice and clean and professional, it now looks a bit like a mishmash of random bits and bobs that neither fit into one definite style or with a clear goal (the harassment policy link at the top of the page for no apparent reason being a good example).

I am keen to help out and get a nice efficient help system, as I would say that one of WP's biggest problems is its "editing side" appearance to new users - both from the pov of the technical aspects (all the various editing shortcuts) and from the policies and guidelines side (a lot of new users simply don't know the do's and don’ts, and finding them (even for me) is a 10 minute process of hunting through the help pages. Are there clear targets here (like the main page redesign project) or are the goals just to "fix typo's and grammar" type things. SFC9394 20:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Right now, focus has been on the Community Portal. I think we will come back to working on the help pages. Your help in this would definitely be welcome. I agree that it's quite difficult to find things on help, with the way it is now. --Aude (talk | contribs) 20:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Cheers for the update, hopefully in time the help pages will get a full sort and clean done on them - in the meantime I will have a browse by the Community Portal Redesign and see if I can add anything helpful! SFC9394 17:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


Suggestion: Could you merge/move this page/project across to Help talk:Contents/Redesign? That would establish a good consistant trend alongside the Community Portal/Redesign example, and keep all the conversation nearer the central location.

Also, I've made a sampler box of old designs at Help talk:Contents/Draft, that could perhaps be moved to Help:Contents/Redesign along with this project's current mainpage. Just some thoughts :) --Quiddity 08:51, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging various Revert help pages

We have a screwed up documentation on reverting. There's Help:Reverting, which consists of content copied from meta, with a template Template:Ph:Reverting included at the bottom. It's currently the most-widely linked page on Reverting. But we also have Wikipedia:Reverting which is an entirely differnt page. These obviously need to be merged. Also there's the question of how, or where, to put the material we have that is a type of guideline/policy on Reverting. The material is there, more or less, but it's quite disorderd. I'm mainly mentioning this here so I (or someone else) will remember it. JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Also, Template:Phh:Edit summary had a {{guideline}} tag on it, which is wrong. We probably should have a guideline on edit summaries (heck, I'm sure we do) but that page ain't it. This needs to be straightend out somehow. JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 13:46, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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